Paying for land on website rather than in world

Is it possible to pay your tier on the main site rather than in world? The reason I ask is my SL husband is having a lot of internet problems and therefore cannot get on the game. He can however access the SL website through his mobile phone so he was wondering if there is any way he could pay the tier payment on the main site, or is there a way he can transfer the funds to me through the main site so I can pay it in world for us.

EDIT: We bought our land from a private seller, not LL just so everyone knows.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Paying tier in the website is the *only* way you can pay it, unless it's rent for land on a private estate. LL take tier from the US$ funds in the account and never from L$.

I'm sorry I'm not 100% familar with the lingo. Allow me to rephrase. We purchased land from a private seller, not from LL. Is it possible to pay our land payment through the main website if this is the case?

Private seller - not possible. Can't transfer lindens to other avatars from the site.

Now you're making it confusing

Most land is bought from private sellers - both mainland and private estates. The difference between mainland and private estates is that the tier for mainland is payed to LL, whereas the tier for private estate land is payed to the estate owner.

If the tier is payed to LL, the only place you can pay it is in the website and with US$ - never with L$.

Private estate owners sometimes accept L$ but you can never pay private estate owners in the SL website.

It sounds as though you don't know if you've got mainland or private estate land.

*sigh* Okay, thank you.

I'm not trying to make things confusing. We have private estate land.

Here's the deal, we purchased land from a place called GlenXi in world, not LL. It's them we have to pay our tier payment to, not LL. Does that help at all?

I believe some Estates have their own websites that allow payment by PayPal.

(I can imagine a Rube Goldberg-rivalling contraption that would allow tenants to generate L$ payments from a website through a tenant-owned prim with PERMISSION_DEBIT, but I doubt anybody would do that.)

ETA: You *may* be in luck. Check the "Pay Now" button in the right column of http://glenxi.blogspot.com/. Note that I know nothing about this site, so I have no way of knowing if it's somebody spoofing... and IMPORTANT: it seems to take you to a PayPal page that talks about Open Sim and US$50 fee for two weeks rent, or something, so I really think a chat with the Estate manager is warranted before using that.

Yes it does. In that case you can't pay the tier in the SL website - sorry.

Thank you Qie.

I will contact the person we bought our land from and see if they can help. Maybe they do have a website that we can pay through.

Thanks everyone for your responses.

Moving to the rest of your question...

Unfortunately, he can't transfer money to you (L$ or US$) in the SL website. Perhaps someone will know if it's possible in the xtsreet site.

If the landlord doesn't have an external means to pay, one alternative springs to mind. You could buy some L$ youself to pay it with, and your other half could pay you back when he gets his connection sorted out.

If his problem with getting in-world is an issue with running the normal SL viewer, then he could use a text-only viewer like Metabolt. That would allow him to log in and pay L$ to another avatar.
http://www.metabolt.net/

Thank you to everyone who responded, you were all very helpful.

I did find out that they do have a way to pay through paypal so problem solved, yay!

Anyway, thanks again!

That is not an actual purchase. When you 'purchase' land from an estate owner you never actually own the land. If you own land you will know because you pay tier for land you own to linden lab directly - not to a resident.

If you pay 'tier' to a resident it is simply a rental payment. You are renting.

Try contacting the landlord on your husband's behalf and try to work something out with the landlord. Perhaps send the landlord a note card explaining things and asking if you can pay rent (okay, 'tier' since some landlords insist on claiming it's tier) in your husband's stead, if you wish to hold onto the house/land until things work out.

I really wish someone would do a JIRA about real estate terminology. "Buy" and "purchase" should not be allowable language when it isn't.

Well I do have (albeit tiny) issues with this. When you (ahem, 'obtain')land from an estate, you have land perms, within the covenant of course. The land parcel shows as yours, same as your mainland would, and you can name it. Terraforming, land options, media parcel settings, all are yours to control. When you 'rent' land, you have to join a group and wear a group tag to do those things, or even to rez on your land. To me, that's a hassle, the group tag thingy. So I wouldn't exactly call it 'renting' when you (ahem, obtain) land that the estates are actually selling the parcels. Your definition seems to be who you pay your tier to; I don't really see the difference, your estate tier, while paid to the estate owner, ends up paid to LL anyway, via the estate owner. I own both estate land parcels and mainland parcels, btw so I do have a tiny clue. I consider myself as owning both.

That's a sensible way of looking at it, Treasure. The effect of both purchases is the same. The difference is who it's bought from and both of the people/organisations that land is bought from can take it back at any time.

However, because buyers can have much more confidence in LL than in private individuals, there could be some information provided to people who are buying private estate land although I don't know what that information could be without it sounding like a warning, which wouldn't be suitable.

Didn't mean to step on any toes.

It isn't owning, to me, if someone can take it back. Simple as that.

(Before anyone adds this - yes, I know LL can conceivably also but they do not, unless something huge has been broken rules-wise. Estate owners can because it's Tuesday.)

Terraforming and naming aren't owning, in my book. It's renting with a bit more privileges. To me it is not worth the risk.

That was Treasure's point, if I understood correctly. Someone can take estate land AND mainland back.

You're addition was too late - I was already writing it.

I dunno - she can answer that. But, I interpreted her post to mean that estate owners are actually selling their land to the renter. They are not - the down payment holds the parcel and rent begins to be paid after that.

The covenant is a rental agreement.

If the tenant could sell that parcel outright, and do what they pleased, it would be a sale.

I can see what she's saying - it's rather like owning a condo (and paying HOA). Except in real life condos do not get taken back at the rate estate rentals do in SL.



Your post hadn't appeared yet, when I did. I knew someone would say what you said, Lol.

No, my toes are fine, girlfriend, is just a difference of opinion is all. We can agree to disagree, eh? And, my calm feelings about owning estate land may well be because I have never bought from anyone I didn't know well, and, have never been burned, I acknowledge that. The tier has always been pretty much in line with LL parcel tiers, and again, the not having to wear a group tag or belong to a group is something I like. I also like, (for example) not having a skateboard that somebody dumped on mainland, that's been hanging in the sky next to my parcel there, for probably a year now. People have a tendency to dump more on mainland. Gotta be so vigilant, never know what will show up on or over your land, or worse, right next door where you can't deal with it yourself.

True, as your other thread proves. That one is about mainland, right?

Hi, that IS what I am saying. All estate land that I own, and have owned, I had the right to sell it outright to someone else. There was no 'down payment' (although I know some places do it that way, and yeah, I too consider that rent). I simply bought it from the land, for a normal price, not some downpayment, or a dollar or whatever, and tier started the first of the following month. It was/is my parcel on estate land. The resident can do what they please, as long as they stay in the covenant. But yes, I can sell all my estate parcels to anyone, anytime I like. It's not just terraforming and naming, at all........

ETA: it's all about who the estate owner is, how it's set up. These places that you obtain for one linden, then pay weely tier or whatever and you have no resale rights (or many other rights either) I totally agree with you but estates are different, they are not all like that!

ETA AGAIN: My first land I ever bought, was on an estate named Deaf Republic, privately owned. It eventually failed, and sold to a private owner who owned several sims but the premise remained the same. You bought from the land, tier started the first of the following month, paid to the estate owner. YOu had full land perms and you could sell your land parcel to anyone you wanted. I did sell a couple of those parcels on that sim. Finally after 2 years, the estate owner sold to a vampire clan, the whole sim; they offered for me to stay, but I was ready to go, and set my own parcel to sale; which a vampire bought, at the price I set, and I moved on but it's always been that way for estate land I've lived on.

But, could the estate owner take it back again, for any reason? Sure; I just never personally had it happen but have certainly seen it on the Forums here and it sucks.

/me laughs, yeah.

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