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Jig Chippewa
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10-13-2007 16:06
From: Victorria Paine Well, but that's less sympathetic. I mean I don't advocate spying on other people, including loved ones, but if you are cheating and get caught from spying, it doesn't seem to me a very sympathetic case for complaining about the spying. Actually Victoria on first day he met me he gave me a picture as a gift and the most serious bug was hidden in it. Thus he was paranoid about me from the first. I dont belong to any man here or in Real and if bugs are used I consider it a sneaky snake-like attitude that speaks only of the scuzbag slimeball that would use one. Also I hadn't married the guy - I have no probs with being pissed off when a marriage vow is taken in real life but somehow cant get worked up about "cheating" here. But lets get back to topic of thread. By the way the man I had as my lover is still my partner after 8 months.
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Walker Moore
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10-13-2007 16:11
From: Ordinal Malaprop No.
It can't be.
I have seen numerous items for sale which claim that they can do this sort of thing - previously it used to be slave collars, with "masters" intimidating and lying to the unwary - and it has always been rubbish. I do know the odd one or two things regarding how these systems could possibly work. It's all an enormous con-job. Wow, I haven't seen any product advert making claims like that. I need to get out more .. or get enslaved or something.  Thanks for the info Ordinal. =)
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shiney Sprocket
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10-13-2007 16:12
From: Jig Chippewa Actually Victoria on first day he met me he gave me a picture as a gift and the most serious bug was hidden in it. Thus he was paranoid about me from the first. I dont belong to any man here or in Real and if bugs are used I consider it a sneaky snake-like attitude that speaks only of the scuzbag slimeball that would use one.
Also I hadn't married the guy - I have no probs with being pissed off when a marriage vow is taken in real life but somehow cant get worked up about "cheating" here.
But lets get back to topic of thread.
By the way the man I had as my lover is still my partner after 8 months. So if you cheat, it is ok as long as you keep sleeping with the person you cheated with. Good to know. But he hid a chat relay in an object he gave you? That is pretty low, but again if you weren't a cheater to begin with it wouldn't have come up as an issue. Can't blame the guy for being right about you. |
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Ordinal Malaprop
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10-13-2007 16:15
From: Walker Moore Wow, I haven't seen anything like that. I need to get out more .. or get enslaved or something. Thanks for the info Ordinal. =) Oh, there were a few threads about it a little while back - "I met this man and he gave me a collar and now he says he can track me anywhere/prevent me from doing anything/I can never remove the collar/etc, what shall I do?" I take great delight in detailing exactly why this is rubbish, and have a standing offer open to anyone who thinks they can "collar" me. Accepting all possible consequences should they fail, of course. Amazingly enough nobody has ever taken me up on that. People who spread lies about scripting offend me particularly.
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Victorria Paine
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Join date: 13 Jul 2007
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10-13-2007 16:18
From: shiney Sprocket So if you cheat, it is ok as long as you keep sleeping with the person you cheated with.
Good to know.
But he hid a chat relay in an object he gave you? That is pretty low, but again if you weren't a cheater to begin with it wouldn't have come up as an issue. Can't blame the guy for being right about you. Well if it was in something he gave her the first day, that can hardly be classed as "cheating", in my view. It doesn't appear that any exclusivity could have been reasonably expected. |
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Jig Chippewa
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10-13-2007 16:21
From: shiney Sprocket So if you cheat, it is ok as long as you keep sleeping with the person you cheated with.
Good to know.
But he hid a chat relay in an object he gave you? That is pretty low, but again if you weren't a cheater to begin with it wouldn't have come up as an issue. Can't blame the guy for being right about you. Jig hangs her head in shame when Shiney scowls at her Mol Flanders ways. Then sticks out her tongue when Shiney not looking. Better not go out on sl or real date wit' me Shiney.  Yeah best relationships also spring from when girlfriends cheat on boyfriends - or has that NEVER happened to you???
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Brenda Connolly
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10-13-2007 16:22
From: Ordinal Malaprop Oh, there were a few threads about it a little while back - "I met this man and he gave me a collar and now he says he can track me anywhere/prevent me from doing anything/I can never remove the collar/etc, what shall I do?" I take great delight in detailing exactly why this is rubbish, and have a standing offer open to anyone who thinks they can "collar" me. Accepting all possible consequences should they fail, of course. Amazingly enough nobody has ever taken me up on that.
People who spread lies about scripting offend me particularly. He he. I'd love to hear the Consequences of Failure.
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Jessica Elytis
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Join date: 7 Oct 2005
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10-13-2007 16:23
The only way to get an IP address with an LSL command would be to either using a backdoor (ie exploit) in the SL system (not out of the question, as we all know SL is still a work-in-progress), or to "hack" the LL mainframe.
Either use would be a severe violation of LL's policies. The first will get you perm-banned, while hacking their system will get you a visit from the men in the pretty blue uniforms with these pretty lights on top of their cars. They give you these niffy braceletts when they show up too. *Grins*
AR it (which you have), and follow up with a Support Ticket (be sure to reference the AR # that comes in the auto-email) to ask wether this should be reported under the EXPLOIT catagory.
DO NOT report it under that catagory unless LL directs you (and save teh chat log at that point) or you are ABSOLUTELY certain it is an exploit. Exploits take a whole big red flagging at LL. They wake up Lindens in the night and if they are false, LL comes down on the one making the false report. They don't slam innocents for honest mistakes, but exploits are VERY serious. Esspecially hacking attempts. I HIGHLY advise not reporting it as such, unless LL Support tells you to.
LL will, obviously, still not tell you if they did anything, but if you ask Support, at least you know you are doing all you can.
Good luck
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Ordinal Malaprop
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10-13-2007 16:29
From: Brenda Connolly He he. I'd love to hear the Consequences of Failure. You know, I don't think I ever specified them, but there would probably be some sort of "no-AR, any-script-I-fancy-using-until-I-get-bored" clause. There are quite a few that still need testing. These chaps are all mouth and no trousers anyway - just trying to bully people without experience.
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Brenda Connolly
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10-13-2007 18:44
From: Ordinal Malaprop You know, I don't think I ever specified them, but there would probably be some sort of "no-AR, any-script-I-fancy-using-until-I-get-bored" clause. There are quite a few that still need testing.
These chaps are all mouth and no trousers anyway - just trying to bully people without experience. I would have made a Slap Bet with them
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Maggie McArdle
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10-13-2007 18:57
From: Ordinal Malaprop No.
It can't be.
I have seen numerous items for sale which claim that they can do this sort of thing - previously it used to be slave collars, with "masters" intimidating and lying to the unwary - and it has always been rubbish. I do know the odd one or two things regarding how these systems could possibly work. It's all an enormous con-job. the amethyst collar can "record" only the slaves words, in chat if i rememeber correctly. and yes there are items like those around. we abused reported one such person who employed them. so as to the "con job", i doubt it.
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Rebecca Proudhon
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Join date: 3 May 2006
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10-14-2007 02:39
And people want Open Source? People saying "SL is not a game" will have to amend their Opinion to, "Sl is a game of Spy vs Spy." Whoever can come up with the most invasive tools will win. Yea Team. Survival of the hackerists. ugh  |
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Nina Stepford
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Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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10-14-2007 03:02
sounds like something the lindens will be impressed by actually. ar is a waste of time. From: Elie Giulia I recently went to the sl website to find out how to report a serious privacy violation. And found the email address [email]privacy@lindenlab.com[/email] . This email address is bogus and I was unable to send to this address. I would like to know where I can report this. Here is my letter as follows (violator's name removed)
I have recently become aware of a person named ****** ******* (sl name) who has a device that records and tracks an avatar's IP address, where they live, where they go in second life and regardless of their settings he is able to tell where people are on the grid at any given moment. He has collected a database of this information through an HUD device which he has given to several people. These people in his group are to fly all around second life gathering this data via their "data collection HUD", which is sent to a website outside of second life where users of this HUD can also view this personal information. He has stationed himself in a position where he can gather this data on every new second life user as they enter the grid. As a result of gathering this data he is able to identify users and their alts. He is able to collect patterns of behavior of second life users for commercial purposes and in turn sells this information to outside sources. I was offered one of these collection HUDs and am currently in possession of one of these devices which I do not use for obvious reasons. I believe this is a violation of my personal privacy by a person other than Linden Labs use and second life users privacy policy. I am formally requesting that such data collection of my personal information be stopped immediately by ****** *******. |
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Colette Meiji
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10-14-2007 07:24
From: Rebecca Proudhon And people want Open Source? People saying "SL is not a game" will have to amend their Opinion to, "Sl is a game of Spy vs Spy." Whoever can come up with the most invasive tools will win. Yea Team. Survival of the hackerists. ugh Well considering Danny Boy Linden has publically stated that the rules against disclosure will be going away - We should expect no privacy. In my opinion no one should say or do anything in Second Life that connects to their Real Life in any sort of specific terms. |
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Conifer Dada
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10-14-2007 07:40
If it's possible to make a device that collects peoples' data (and I dare say it might be possible), I doubt very much if anyone seriously engaged in such activity would go round bragging about it. I would imagine they would embed the device into a freebie handout of some sort and just sit back and watch the info flooding in from unsuspecting SLers. So I would guess that your person was just bluffing.
I met someone in a sandbox once who said he was working on a script to divert L$ payments made to others into his account. He was a newbie and quite clueless so I didn't file an AR at the time as I guessed he didn't know what he was talking about.
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