Sorry to say this but dismissing the claim is not an option.
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-30-2009 09:47
Sorry to say this but dismissing the claim is not an option. _____________________
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Yumi Murakami
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01-30-2009 11:23
Sure it is. See my previous message. I'm just not sure. Saying that "it is a trademark issue rather than a copyright issue" involves making a judgment; and the filer might want to challenge that in court - thus LL can't be allowed to do it if they are going to be immune to lawsuits. Also, you're assuming that because the resident dispute started over two words, that therefore the DMCA will be filed against them to. If they're planning to file a bogus DMCA they can just pick a random piece of the target's content and file against that. |
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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01-30-2009 11:34
I'm just not sure. Saying that "it is a trademark issue rather than a copyright issue" involves making a judgment; and the filer might want to challenge that in court - thus LL can't be allowed to do it if they are going to be immune to lawsuits. Also, you're assuming that because the resident dispute started over two words, that therefore the DMCA will be filed against them to. If they're planning to file a bogus DMCA they can just pick a random piece of the target's content and file against that. Again...THERE IS NO CONTENT. It was the use of two words in an announcement. Those two words are also the two words which make up the "well-known" company's name. But there is no content upon which to file a DMCA. So LL would have to immediately make the determination that there is no "copyright" infringement, because the issue is trademark, not copyright. _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-30-2009 11:56
I'm just not sure. Saying that "it is a trademark issue rather than a copyright issue" involves making a judgment; and the filer might want to challenge that in court Also, you're assuming that because the resident dispute started over two words, that therefore the DMCA will be filed against them to. If they're planning to file a bogus DMCA they can just pick a random piece of the target's content and file against that. _____________________
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Paladin Pinion
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01-30-2009 11:58
It's hard to advise without knowing what the two words are, but I think I'd just rewrite the notecard so that the two words are not next to each other. Common words are not copyrightable or trademarkable, but if they are spaced apart in the description there can be no misunderstanding of the intent.
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Yumi Murakami
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01-30-2009 12:21
Again...THERE IS NO CONTENT. It was the use of two words in an announcement. Those two words are also the two words which make up the "well-known" company's name. But there is no content upon which to file a DMCA. So LL would have to immediately make the determination that there is no "copyright" infringement, because the issue is trademark, not copyright. If it is to be a _bogus_ DMCA, they can pick any random piece of content they like that their target is selling. |
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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01-30-2009 12:26
If it is to be a _bogus_ DMCA, they can pick any random piece of content they like that their target is selling. OK...because I can't go into more detail, I'll let this comment stand for posterity. However...not applicable in this case. ![]() _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-30-2009 13:20
If it is to be a _bogus_ DMCA, they can pick any random piece of content they like that their target is selling. _____________________
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