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Uncle Phil and Stroker Serpentine on telly now!

Ciaran Laval
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06-23-2009 14:13
Anybody watching this documentary about virtual worlds on More 4?
Moesha Yakubu
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06-23-2009 14:23
whats more 4?

im on SL time what channel would that be on?(direct tv here for cable)
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06-23-2009 14:32
It will be here after the programmes have been aired.


http://www.channel4.com/programmes/catch-up/
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Moesha Yakubu
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06-23-2009 14:36
thank you Rene! :)
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06-23-2009 14:44
From: Rene Erlanger
It will be here after the programmes have been aired.


http://www.channel4.com/programmes/catch-up/


Not for those of us outside the UK I am afraid hopefully someone will record it and upload it I saw at xstreet :)
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Ciaran Laval
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06-23-2009 15:31
That was pretty damn good. Well worth watching.
Tiffy Vella
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06-23-2009 17:11
I hope the rest of us get a chance. Please share, if anyone can?
TigroSpottystripes Katsu
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06-23-2009 17:15
not working for me, I don't use "Windows Media Player" and they insist on not allowing anything else :/

edit:btw, is the URL for that specific video http://www.channel4.com/player/v2/player.jsp?showId=9374 ?
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Ciaran Laval
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06-23-2009 17:32
It's here for those who can view Channel 4 on demand:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/another-perfect-world/catch-up#2924948
Ceera Murakami
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06-23-2009 17:34
Didn't see anything at all about Stroker.

Most of the info looked like it was a few years out of date - like the old Bragg vs LindenLab lawsuit, which apparently, at the time that report was put together, hadn't yet been resolved.
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Ciaran Laval
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06-23-2009 17:37
From: Ceera Murakami
Didn't see anything at all about Stroker.

Most of the info looked like it was a few years out of date - like the old Bragg vs LindenLab lawsuit, which apparently, at the time that report was put together, hadn't yet been resolved.


I think you may have been watching a different documentary, Stroker was heavily featured and I don't recall Bragg being mentioned at all, they mentioned Stroker's case.
Tiffy Vella
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06-23-2009 17:38
Thanks Ciaran and Rene, but unfortunately thats only for UK peoples, not the colonies.
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06-23-2009 17:48
the most I got from that last link was this little animation of a worm thing that spooges honey on a security camera...
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Then they came for the furries,
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06-23-2009 20:25
From: TigroSpottystripes Katsu
the most I got from that last link was this little animation of a worm thing that spooges honey on a security camera...
Is that Stroker's new Adult Animated Device?
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spinster Voom
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06-24-2009 00:49
I watched this and thought it was pretty good - certainly better than most mainstream media takes on virtual worlds.

The theme of the documentary was virtual world governance and the tension between the makers of VWs and the residents (so very topical ;) ). As well as SL, they talked about WoW, Eve, Lineage, Metaplace, TSO and a couple of others including a Chinese one they never referred to by name (wonder why not?) which I assume was HiPiHi.

I thought the Metaplace stuff was interesting - Raph Koster's Avatar Bill of Rights is used as the foundation of their ToS (although if you look at their website, all the really hairy legal thou-shalt-not rules are hidden in another document you have to agree to - the Beta agreement).

Eve was featured as having the first democratically elected resident governance council. I thought it was a pity that the elected representatives had to physically go to Iceland and meet round a table in the real world, but then from what I could see (I have never played Eve), everyone ingame is zooming around in spaceships with giant guns on the front - not exactly conducive to measured debate.

The SL stuff was largely focussed on the Stroker case, which unfortunately reinforced the link between SL and sex (oh yes, and they couldn't not mention ageplay :rolleyes: ), although to their credit, the documentary makers did concentrate on the legal aspects.

All in all, definitely worth watching if you can.
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06-24-2009 03:23
is this the one where they show stroker at one point getting under a sink to fix some plumbing?
i think this is an older one if it was..
i think there was one like a year ago on vitual world and it had featured him in it ..
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06-24-2009 05:52
No, no plumbing. Stroker by his pool and Stroker in his MoCap suit. I'm pretty sure this is a new one made for UK TV.
Aeslyn Dae
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06-24-2009 06:18
This documentary hasn't been shown previously, I'm sure. It was titled "Another Perfect World" and seems to have been a collaboration between a Dutch company and UK's Channel4. Here's the synopsis from their site:

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Another Perfect World is a documentary about digital utopias, about online worlds created as places for work, play, friendship and love.

People have always created utopias, worlds that reflect the greatest, most enlightened and noble ideas of the period in which they live. The utopias of the future will be created online, in digital worlds capable of rendering photo-realistic depictions of whatever the mind can imagine with technologies that allow people from around the world to join in. We now have the chance to build a new world from scratch.

If you were going to do so, on which principles would you establish it? What is more important: freedom of expression; an active marketplace to encourage social interaction; or laws to define the limits of social relations?


I found it very interesting. If it gets shown elsewhere it's well worth watching.

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06-24-2009 08:09
I wish it to be known that I, Phil Deakins, am *not* the aforementioned "Uncle Phil". I am much better looking than the Phil in the documentary - whoever he is ;)
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Ciaran Laval
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06-24-2009 11:08
You wish Deakins ;)
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06-24-2009 11:59
From: TigroSpottystripes Katsu
edit:btw, is the URL for that specific video http://www.channel4.com/player/v2/player.jsp?showId=9374 ?


Dunno if that was the right one, but it sure was interesting. Can I keep Philip chained up in my basement please? I'm just a sucker for that "visionary madman" expression he's got going there... emphasis on madman... :D
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06-24-2009 21:18
finally i found it in Torrents..
at
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http://xtremespeeds.net/details.php?id=18946
youll need to sign up but its all free.. no CC info nothing.. no real life info or anything just need your email (any)
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06-25-2009 02:12
From: eku Zhong
finally i found it in Torrents..
at
http://xtremespeeds.net/
http://xtremespeeds.net/details.php?id=18946
youll need to sign up but its all free.. no CC info nothing.. no real life info or anything just need your email (any)


Thanks :)

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Ceka Cianci
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06-25-2009 03:42
you would think someone would have it on you tube by now lol
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06-25-2009 05:55
From: Ceka Cianci
you would think someone would have it on you tube by now lol


someone has
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0AvgVrnX6U
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