copybots

This. Is. Irrelevant.

They are both equally capable of grabbing the same textures. And both will be equally reduced to grabbing only baked textures from avatars other than the operator. Both will be able to do what they like with the operator's own stuff.

It's what the script kiddies use, actually.


Both the programs under discussion are available for free, and there are people attempting to sell both of them, so there is no difference there.

And the other is just download and run it, so there is no real difference there.


What I wrote is that the impact will be the same for both. And the amount of relief will be the same for both.

granted, the thieves will have to buy the product to rip it clean (or have willing or ignorant victims/clients) so it's a step, and about the only one that can be applied and expected to succed...

and no, !quit never worked in any commercial product, nor do any of the popular bot products (though there is one method that can do a decent job, but it also kills non-graphical clients so...)

- Professionals = Script Kiddies? Who cares - the difference in word choice means little to me, but thanks anyways.

Show me where someone is trying to sell GL Intercept. It is not the same as Copy Bot being sold AT ALL.

Anyone can enter "GL Intercept" into Google, and the very first entry returned is the GL Intercept program website download link.

Enter 'Copy Bot' into Google, and the first 200 links give you nothing but junk.

And Copy Bot may be "download and run" - but good luck finding it for the layperson in SL - unlike GL Intercept.

Anyways, you obviously apply your "script kiddie" expertise to the layperson.

You are trying to make it sound like GL Intercept is used the same as Copy Bot and it is not -period-

For people that generally use GL Intercept, the change in the viewer will not matter at all as they will do what they always have - Purchase it, then rip it, then use it - and if their unscrupulous, distribute it.

Anyone using GL Intercept to "mass rip" from passerby's at a clothing store or whatever, is going to spend a great deal of time going through useless 512x512 image files - and that unlike Copy Bot, is not a general use of GL Intercept.

Just a thought:

Anyone who goes to buy a skin and then clone it bit-for-bit in a way that attaches that person's name to it as creator - is a complete, irreconcilable idiot!

(Sorry so late to respond.) Yes, it does, but the individual layers are also still made available to other viewers to bake onto the other avatar, if it doesn't get the baked textures. That's in the process of going away (and as Viktoria notes, it's uncovered just how unreliable has been delivery of those baked textures).

Also, Briana is correct that this change by no means prevents IP theft; it only requires that the thief's viewer get the unbaked textures, which condition obtains if one buys the goods.

Okay, I confess: I just wanted to talk about naked avatars.

one could easily apply intercepted textures to an existing mod skin.

You also wouldnt have to technically buy a skin to rip it with GLIntercept... you could just hang out at one of the hundreds of nude beaches in SL and get gobs of skins ripped for free.

Just sayin'

Sure but doing this process is like that T.V. commercial where millions of shoes start raining from the sky - You get millions of shoes but good luck finding a match to any one shoe.

You could go to a nude beach and lag yourself to death with GL Intercept going, but unless the skin has the creators label on the texture layers itself you are never going to find a match after pulling down so many upper/lower/head_body textures.

As mentioned by Viktoria, who seems to know a lot about Copy Bot - it will stop Copy Botters from randomly snagging your skin in a couple seconds. But i do not think Skin Thieving resellers do this. They are like people who deal with counterfeit money - they pay $20-$40 USD and get in return $100 USD in counterfeit. But in SL, the counterfeiter pays a few thousand in Linden to get the skins - then rips them via GL Intercept and sells them as their own until someone puts 1+1 together and reports them and they get DMCA'd. It is much easier to do this, as opposed to sitting in Laqroqki with a Copy Bot client snagging random peoples skins, getting incomplete packs and very little to open a full blown skin store with.

Baked on layers will prevent some theft, the "script kiddies" with Copy Bot going.

But it will not prevent the primary means of theft - GL Intercept, which requires very little script kiddie knowledge and can be found as the first link in any Google search.

If they copybot report them where is the problem?

If LL do nothing just quit loosing your time

!quit create !quit buy land !quit secondlife

Quit SL because someone Copy Botted me????

I would quit content creating before i ever quit SL.

Just recently i was severely victimized by a GL Intercept attack on my avatar. I won't be leaving SL over it.

If Linden lab can't do nothing why not?

Because there is more to this world than making items. There is more to this world than being victimized by content thieves. If you are only here to make money - then yes, if your money making ability has been impaired then leave, that is your choice.

But i will not be leaving this world because of something so shallow because my investment in SL has never been about my ability to make money, or the freedom to build. It is about my freedom of expression in my virtual self through my avatar and the social life i try to have here as I am mostly incapable of having a social life in the real world.

SL brings my avatar to life, as well as giving me an avenue to other human interaction that is not my immediate family, and for me, this is a nice life and something more than many people will ever experience in their own full lifetimes.

Try living Second Life. Try investing a bit of your self in here. Try not tying yourself to an earning potential and you may find that it is not so easy to leave...And for me, it would be an easier choice to give birth with out an epidural...twice.

ok you are here to have fun using a business platform so you don't have to care about copybots.

Oh, SL is a business platform?

Do the other 60,000 logged in accounts know that?

Wait a minute. Do any businesses actually know that???

Yes it's a business platform where you pay landfees and where you pay contents creators.
Whitout the business platform SL in only a boring 3d chat where only people like you are happy.

Oh, ok.

With that, i have to say... Later noob.

Come back to the table when you actually know something worth contributing and when you can cobble together more than 2 sentences to explain yourself in a single paragraph as opposed to 3 separate posts.

Also, I've done more for this "business platform" than you ever will be able to, and without being a business.

And after perusing your past posts, i really see that you are not worth engaging after this post.

Carry on, recruit.

Tiziana, i forgot about your flash of brilliance in this thread: /327/d8/309269/2.html#post2338777

I was a fool for engaging you here.

Those who forget history, WILL repeat it - as i just proved.

Bye Brianna no time to loose

Since Pep appears to be sleeping on the job...No time to *what*?

How does one "loose" time, exactly? And if one *does* manage to "loose" time, does it run around rampaging the neighborhood and poop in people's front lawns?

And don't forget the One "n" in Briana!

Oh it was so hard to not post:

One "n"
One "o"

Thank you Katheryne!

It's a real pain to clean up a time dump, even if you're a quantum mechanic and have great heaping wads of unused causality around the place for explaining away paradoxes. Last time (or is that next time?) I missed a patch and kept having to dodge myself on the way to work EVERY bloody morning for a week.

For sale:

Three weeks' worth of unused causality and loosed time, cheap. Sold. Still available though. Will become available in a month, check with me again yesterday. Didn't I already say this?