is there a demand for a "liberal Christian" community ?
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3Ring Binder
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01-13-2008 15:07
3D is 3Ring and he's a she. i'm not the poor one. i'm not a liberal. God forbid! 
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William13 Enoch
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01-13-2008 15:22
Liberal with what?
Just askin
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Har Fairweather
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01-13-2008 15:27
From: 3Ring Binder 3D is 3Ring and he's a she. i'm not the poor one. i'm not a liberal. God forbid!  Oops, sorry, my bad. 3Ring Binder is an honorable name around here. I apologize for the mistake. Although you are the first 3-ring binder I've encountered that talks back. : P
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Archie Lukas
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01-13-2008 15:41
Trouble is - to most people this term:
"liberal Christian"
Is a contradiction of terms
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Lias Leandros
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01-13-2008 16:36
From: 3Ring Binder liberal christians? i just gotta know, wut is that? It means no sex balls.
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Steve Mahfouz
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01-13-2008 16:41
just a quick example of what I think of as "liberal Christianity": if you have sex before marriage, you aren't going to hell. Hell = something that may not exist at all, for all I know.
hope that helped a tad.
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Angelique LaFollette
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01-13-2008 16:56
From: Steve Mahfouz I'm pondering a community idea, partially for my own benefit. I'm one of those Christians who is on the "borderline" between not believing at all and believing. I definitely believe in God but not in a fundamentalist-type way.
At any rate, I'm NOT trying to start a debate here between Christians and non. If you don't believe, that's fine with me. I'm trying to gauge interest in starting a sim devoted to other people like me. I'm very reluctant to spend money and time when all it will do is cause me grief.
Once again, this is about a LIBERAL Christian community, NOT a fundamentalist "Holy Bible is perfect" community. What do you think ? I would suggest that if there were demand for one, all you would need do is perform a search, and you would find one. I think the reason you find them absent would be, One of the primary hallmarks of a Liberal Christian is an ability to live in the world at large without desire to Build walls because they are sufficiently comfortable in thier faith that the presence of diverse Points of View doe Not make them want to Hide under thier beds repeating Psalms Rapid fire with thier fingers in thier Ears. I was born, and raised Catholic, and apart from a Crisis of faith that i am Dealing with right now, I have always been very devout, But i have ALSO Lived in the real World. I have not Used my faith to segregate myself from the rest of humanity, and i have not used it as an excuse to despise or belittle others for Following another path. I have not used it as a shield against Learning everything i can about Other faiths, other cultures, and other lifestyles. What my faith has given me is an ability to Explore the world while maintainong my Moral, and Ethical centre, and the ability to let others Follow thier path free from Judgement, or Scorn. Angel.
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Colette Meiji
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01-13-2008 17:04
From: Steve Mahfouz just a quick example of what I think of as "liberal Christianity": if you have sex before marriage, you aren't going to hell. Hell = something that may not exist at all, for all I know.
hope that helped a tad. Ive often though that if God actually sits there and judges people .. that he'd have to grade on a curve. You'd think pre-marital sex would be pretty darn low down on the list compared to things like murder and rape. Of course I imagine the best way to punish people for their sins is actually give them awareness of what pain their actions have caused others. ----------------------- I think it was mainly work done by St Augustine (with many agreeing of course) who decided that sex was so bad anyway (@400AD) it was not part of the original Christian tradition.
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Steve Mahfouz
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01-13-2008 17:04
From: Angelique LaFollette I would suggest that if there were demand for one, all you would need do is perform a search, and you would find one. I think the reason you find them absent would be, One of the primary hallmarks of a Liberal Christian is an ability to live in the world at large without desire to Build walls because they are sufficiently comfortable in thier faith that the presence of diverse Points of View doe Not make them want to Hide under thier beds repeating Psalms Rapid fire with thier fingers in thier Ears. I was born, and raised Catholic, and apart from a Crisis of faith that i am Dealing with right now, I have always been very devout, But i have ALSO Lived in the real World. I have not Used my faith to segregate myself from the rest of humanity, and i have not used it as an excuse to despise or belittle others for Following another path. I have not used it as a shield against Learning everything i can about Other faiths, other cultures, and other lifestyles. What my faith has given me is an ability to Explore the world while maintainong my Moral, and Ethical centre, and the ability to let others Follow thier path free from Judgement, or Scorn. Angel. Very well put !
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01-13-2008 17:10
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01-13-2008 18:37
... bites tongue and shuffles alongside nina... must be us aussies...
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Conan Godwin
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01-13-2008 19:59
From: Brenda Connolly No, perfect. The Forum Cartel started with 6 people on my back porch. Now look at it Uhm, it's still a good idea I think. We played banjoes and everything.
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Conan Godwin
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01-13-2008 20:03
From: Colette Meiji I think it was mainly work done by St Augustine (with many agreeing of course) who decided that sex was so bad anyway (@400AD) it was not part of the original Christian tradition.
Sex is bad. Mostly because it's so damn boring and takes so much time out of my day that could be spent doing other things like playing video games. My theory is that the early church fathers just got fed up of being nagged, an that's why they declared that the clergy had to be celibate - then they had more free time for whatever the 5th century equivalent of Xbox was.
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01-13-2008 20:04
Sex is bad?!! Yer doin it wrong... 
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Conan Godwin
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01-13-2008 20:08
From: Dinalya Dawes Sex is bad?!! Yer doin it wrong...  I suspect that, in actual fact, she is. Really it's just boring; which is why I'm baffled at the number of people who flock to SL to simulate something that, in RL, is both easy to come by and rather dull once you've had your fill of it.
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Angelique LaFollette
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01-13-2008 20:34
From: Conan Godwin I suspect that, in actual fact, she is. Really it's just boring; which is why I'm baffled at the number of people who flock to SL to simulate something that, in RL, is both easy to come by and rather dull once you've had your fill of it. Fantasies have always had more potential than reality.  Angel.
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Jig Chippewa
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01-13-2008 21:10
Is there such a thing as a liberal religious group?
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Bradley Bracken
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01-13-2008 21:27
From: Jig Chippewa Is there such a thing as a liberal religious group? Check out the Unitarian Universalists. We've been around over 500 years and are pretty damn liberal. Hell, even so liberal that "I" have been encouraged to get into the ministry. Not sure yet if I want to take 6 more years of schooling but giving serious consideration. If a congregation is willing to take me they've got to be damned open minded.
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01-13-2008 21:41
I dont want to get too deep in a thread, Bradley, but I am lacking faith for many reasons. Actually am Jewish in all aspects. But, I think why I shy away from religions is because of what Andrew Marvell describes as "deserts of vast eternity." I am definitely influenced by Hamlet's doubting, "To sleep, to dream / Aye, there's the rub. / For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?" I fear a nothingness, an overwhelming blankness of non-ness. Religion as a whole has good intentions, but I have seen the impact of Church-run schools and also the certainty of faith. My mum went to a convent. I was sent to boarding school and lasted a year. I have little or no faith yet I am well versed in religion and the poetry of faith. I think faith is Beethoven's 9th Symphony or Bach's compositions, perhaps Vaughan Williams' "Thomas Tallis suite". If heaven were music I think it would be bearable. I am glad you have faith. We need people with faith today.
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Bradley Bracken
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01-13-2008 21:47
From: Jig Chippewa I dont want to get too deep in a thread, Bradley, but I am lacking faith for many reasons. That's completely understandable. Many people are the same way today. That's why I chose the faith I have. I say I'm Unitarian but I'm Buddhist as well. At service each week I sit with Jews and Christians and Muslims and Wiccans and Humanists and many atheists and agnostics. In a nutshell we believe we all must have our own spiritual path, we're just here to help each other along that journey. Sorry to hijack Steve's thread.
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