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A cheating neighbor... is there anything to do?

Chris Norse
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11-13-2007 16:44
He may not be aware of the 3rd party programs. He may not trust them. Who knows.
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poopmaster Oh
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11-13-2007 16:55
From: Chris Norse
He may not be aware of the 3rd party programs. He may not trust them. Who knows.



not trusting open source programs.....................lulz indeed
Zaphod Kotobide
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DMCA? Yeah, right.
11-13-2007 17:51
You can file a DMCA complaint against the person for infringing, provided you supply sufficient information to identify each and all of the copyrighted works being infringed, as well as a statement that you have a good faith belief that the other party has no legal basis for use of the works, that the information you're providing in your complaint is accurate, and that you as the complaining party are authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the works in dispute. That last point obviously isn't much of an issue, as you are the owner of the works.

With the above satisfied, under the Safe Harbor provisions of the act, Linden Lab would then be obligated to remove the disputed content, and inform the infringing party of the complaint and subsequent removal. Linden Lab are further obligated to inform the offending party that they have the right to object to the complaint, via a written counter notice, stating that the material does not infringe copyright. Linden Lab would then in turn inform you of the objection.

Now, get out your check book, and find an IP Attorney willing to take your case.

If the offending party provides Linden Lab a counter notice to your complaint, and all his ducks are in a row, you then have 14 business days to file suit. If you fail to act to protect your property in district court within that 14 day period, Linden Lab is then obligated to restore the content originally in dispute.

Now, what's easier? Packing up your stuff and moving to another continent, or pursuing remedy under DMCA?

If the guy is just a dimwhit, you could go this route, and scare the bejesus out of him.. such a person is not likely to file counter notice. But you just never know who you're dealing with in Second Life, do you?

DMCA is not something to be casually batted around. It is a serious tool, for people serious about protecting their intellectual property, and who are equally serious about committing the time, effort, and money to the legal system to make it happen. Real world identities are involved here, with real world, legal documents being exchanged, parties bound to the penalty of perjury for providing false information, etc. It's serious business.
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Wilhelm Neumann
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11-13-2007 18:20
If they are causing lag tell the landlord and if he wont fix the lag tell the landlord if he doesn't fix the lag you have no choice to move. Right now estate land is hard to rent :)

He will probably get rid of some of them. On that note it was so bad in dreamland at one point that they had to impose a limit on campers per chunk of 1024. YOu can no longer have more then 1 camper per 1024 or 2048 of land or something (i can't remember the number actualy ) If they see to many campers they remove some chairs for you :)

works for them anyhow can work here :)
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Dementia Lane
Dead Soul Designs
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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11-15-2007 13:35
Is it possible to put a telehub on your land? Cause now this neighbor has a telehub right on his land.
Oryx Tempel
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11-15-2007 13:51
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Perhaps ask for the covenant to be enforced. You'll both lose your stores if I understand you right, but you'll be free of the lag and he'll have no real reason to hang around anymore. You'll have to find a new home for your store, of course...

I like this idea. You're violating your covenant already; I'm not sure that the land owner is going to be super sympathetic to your plight.
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Colette Meiji
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11-15-2007 14:00
From: Zaphod Kotobide
You can file a DMCA complaint against the person for infringing, provided you supply sufficient information to identify each and all of the copyrighted works being infringed, as well as a statement that you have a good faith belief that the other party has no legal basis for use of the works, that the information you're providing in your complaint is accurate, and that you as the complaining party are authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the works in dispute. That last point obviously isn't much of an issue, as you are the owner of the works.

With the above satisfied, under the Safe Harbor provisions of the act, Linden Lab would then be obligated to remove the disputed content, and inform the infringing party of the complaint and subsequent removal. Linden Lab are further obligated to inform the offending party that they have the right to object to the complaint, via a written counter notice, stating that the material does not infringe copyright. Linden Lab would then in turn inform you of the objection.

Now, get out your check book, and find an IP Attorney willing to take your case.

If the offending party provides Linden Lab a counter notice to your complaint, and all his ducks are in a row, you then have 14 business days to file suit. If you fail to act to protect your property in district court within that 14 day period, Linden Lab is then obligated to restore the content originally in dispute.

Now, what's easier? Packing up your stuff and moving to another continent, or pursuing remedy under DMCA?

If the guy is just a dimwhit, you could go this route, and scare the bejesus out of him.. such a person is not likely to file counter notice. But you just never know who you're dealing with in Second Life, do you?

DMCA is not something to be casually batted around. It is a serious tool, for people serious about protecting their intellectual property, and who are equally serious about committing the time, effort, and money to the legal system to make it happen. Real world identities are involved here, with real world, legal documents being exchanged, parties bound to the penalty of perjury for providing false information, etc. It's serious business.


... And this is why the average content creator has no recourse.

The Lindens wont do squat with just an AR, and the DMCA is too big a tool for the job in most cases.

Perhaps you have an alternative?
Dementia Lane
Dead Soul Designs
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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11-15-2007 14:11
From: Colette Meiji
... And this is why the average content creator has no recourse.

The Lindens wont do squat with just an AR, and the DMCA is too big a tool for the job in most cases.

Perhaps you have an alternative?



We've just been making our products better, we put out a money tree to raise traffic and running advertisements. Yeah DMCA sounds quite difficult and since SL business is like running a RL business, we figure the better thing to do is beat him in price and quality... as well as great customer service.

Naturally, we still want to beat him at his nasty little game though, hehe
HoneyBear Lilliehook
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11-15-2007 14:19
You just have to find another nasty little game to beat him at ;)
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