What size dress and shoes?

In this generic clothing world it seems that all cloth is designed for one size avatar.
Do anyone know what size cloth designers are using?
My wife is tired of having to do extensive modding to dress and they still don't fit right. And don't get me started on shoes.

Shoes are nearly always size 0 for female avs, sometimes a size 10.

Clothes, I have no idea. I think it varies.

some designers are and have resizing scripts in some of there designs. off hand the only ones that come to mind is Ingenue. Eclectic Eclipse also have clothing with size i mind as well. i too have that skirt resizing issue and cannot tell you how many skirts i have ruined trying to make them lay right.

keep in mind also that many designers only have one model to go by when designing their clothing; themselves. in some cases you can ask them to re-size it for you IF they have the time to do so.

What is the problem with the clothes - too big or too small? Usually it's the prim skirts.

For the avs with wider hips, the Brazilian sims often have clothes that fit better.

If your wife is having to size things smaller all the time, it could be that her avatar is smaller in general than the typical SL avatar, possibly based on real life height rather than SL height (which is Amazonian compared to RL). If this is the case, then I suggest she explores some of the Japanese shopping areas, as in my experience (at least with male items) they tend to design for slender, smaller avatars.

If the opposite is the case, then a search for 'BBW' clothing might yield better results. There are a good number of designers that create clothing for the more full-figured female avatar.

interesting.

Yes, they are using GIANT BARBIE CLONE SIZE.

Unfortunately, so many of the designers are they themselves unoriginal clones in their avatar and have purchased a no mod shape to live their second life in with maxed out height sliders. So to them, making everything for tall stick people is the norm.

I've even seen an established designer in a common freebie skin that most 1 day old residents find and use.

Your wife will just have to deal with mass-modding things, like i do. If i buy a kilt from Dystopia, i am guaranteeing myself 30mins of work just resizing it prim by prim - something i learned after i bought 6 kilts. - Adjusting 3 of them was more time than i cared to spend and the other 3 will never be worn (it takes too long to adjust them to my shape) since when i put them on they travel another 1/2 meter or more into the ground beneath me, and i am 5'6".

Kinda sucks, but that is the cost for not being a clone.

I may have to go designer hunting in Brazilian sims.

I have never seen a resize script actually taking different *shapes* into account; only the size, which in effect turn them into nothing but cumbersome, laggy ways of doing what you could easily do with the edit dialog.

I've never seen a resizing script that actually works worth a damn to resize clothing properly.

I have had a few items come with 'skirt - smaller' and 'skirt - larger', but cannot remember off the top of my head.

She may just have to keep resizing them herself or learn to make her own stuff.

was only offering a suggestion, which the op asked for.
i have no problem with the resizing scripts.

The other thing you have to understand about prim clothing.....is no matter WHAT size the model was.....the clothing is never ever going to lay right on the avatar even when the size seems to be corrected. Prims don't recognize avatar shapes as physical so they pass thru.....which means that when ever you move from a standing straight & still position....the prim pieces (especially around the midsection/torso) are going to shift oddly and at times disappear into the body.

This is the single most frustrating element for me anyway....being a photographer....it is really tedius to have to go back and adjust things prim by prim, just because the pose changed. But, ya gotta if ya want things to look normal. I usually shy away from anything that has too many torso attachments. I bought a really cute looking baggy t-shirt not long ago....with an off the shoulder style and a funky elephant design on the front. But after wearing it and adjusting all the prims....it still looked utterly ridiculous unless I was in the 'edit' stance. LOL What a waste....totally cute in theory....terrible in design.

I have to say too, lately I've been finding a lot of items that seem to have been designed for much smaller shapes.....and I use a lot of different shapes, depending on my creative ideas (lately been walking around in 'Jessica' from True Blood lol) but none are large....most run on the smaller side....and still I am finding clothes that seem to be scaled way down. Makes me wonder if some of the designers out there aren't swinging the other way now with their designs.

I have a custom, made myself shape.. and fitting clothes has always been an issue...

One thing i have noticed with resize scripts is lag effects them... if your using a resize script and its just not working correctly, try resetting it and tping someplace less laggy. I buy clothes from all over, and yes, i do have to fit them, but... normally is quick work, since i have been doing it awhile


Most shoes come as a size 0 (zero) unless noted by the creator. The fact that prims pass thru the avies has long been an issue...

One thing that has always bugged me was they all seem to make clothes for skinny people... I'm not fat in SL. but i have curves, and i manage pretty easily.

If your wife is having that many issues fitting, maybe its time to tweak the shape

~brie

most resizing scripts that do not offer an option to 'clean themselves up' should be forbidden due to the insane script footprint they tend to leave.

It depends on where you shop. But when you say "smaller shape" *I* think you mean smaller as in slender/skinny/slim build, not smaller as in stature. I have never run across any prim clothes made for someone of a normal RL height.

If anything, prim items are WAY too small for me in the hips/butt and way too big for me in the arms/legs.

This.

*contemplates the potato sack*

Odds are they are a significant contributor to said lag.
As Kyrah mentions, unless they are of the "make the adjustment once and for all and delete the scripts" variety, *shun them*.
Every running script takes a bit of sim resources, even if they are just lying dormant and waiting for a command, so stacking a script into every 200 prims of your boots to adjust them adds up to a measurable hit.

"keep in mind also that many designers only have one model to go by when designing their clothing; themselves. in some cases you can ask them to re-size it for you IF they have the time to do so."
Many thanks to the designers who do make an effort to help with a variety of sizes.
Sadly, one size fits all seems to be the attitude of the majority. Dresses and shoes go from one extreme to the other. The largest dress I bought was above the ground only if I wore it around my neck but shoes are always too small. At least dresses are usually resizable, shoes on the other hand I don't buy because they just will not fit. They're usually size zero, sometimes a concession is made to size ten, but that's too small too. It's the designers' loss if they cannot/will not cater to their customers, but at the expense of us learning that particular lesson.

I do not entirely agree. I do not feel shoe makers need to cater to their customers. Either they all put resize-scripts in their shoes (which still wont work for some people) and add to the grid lag or we adopt a uniform shoe size.

Of all the things on my avatar the thing that concerns me less are the size of my feet for shoes.

I doubt any shoe makers are experiencing any sort of loss at all from those people who choose to not wear a size 0 shoe.

- Few animators lose any money from making their stuff for giants
- Few dress makers lose any money from making their stuff for giants
- Few vehicle makers lose any money from making their driveable stuff normal size (and giants stick out the roofs).

A blanket statement such as "It's the designers' loss if they cannot/will not cater to their customers" do not hold water because this is not RL and it is not so easy to cater to everyone unless we have 'some' standards.

Foot size is one standard that we can all agree with that is low impact on our avatar appearance and immersion.

The very first day i got prim shoes (around mid 2004) i adjusted my foot size. The maker had made them size ZERO so that everyone could wear them because she knew that adjusting ones foot to size zero is less of an issue than say, adjusting ones entire avatar shape.

When it comes to avatar sizing and clothing attachments that fit poorly, the battle of the foot is one battle i will happily lose in the size war and not give a care.

they coudl also respect the customer who shelled money in their stuffs and set their stuffs mod...

ive noticed that ivalde prim skirts require very little adjustment to fit a smaller av, although since they started with the no-mod glitch pants i havent been back.

Not a big surprise, as those girls tend to be huge amazons in hour glass shape.

You CAN find stores with clothes you like that fit off the rack.

This is part of the joy of freebies - finding a store that literally suits you.

Also, editing clothes to fit is not as hard as it seems. It does take practice, it is tedious, but the more you do it, the quicker and easier it becomes. Just try it a little and stop when you're frustrated. Ask for help.

Here is a good thread on the subject:

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(it also has a way of letting someone else fix your clothes for you)

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I have a couple of dresses from Klaxie Style which come in small, medium and large in the one box, and they fit beautifully .... can't be sure all their items come this way, but they've currently got a really good sale on.

One way to do it - when you see someone of your build in a dress you love, ask them where they got it.

If you are painfully shy, you might find out by stealth, right-click, choose Edit, look at the profile of the person listed as creator.

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