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A thing about friends online

Tiffy Vella
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09-09-2009 02:58
Some of us noticed this today....It used to be that you could get a list of who were your friends online- you could look in your account on the official website, and there it was- one list of people. And if someone had tried to hide online from you, their name would still come up on this list. Very sprung! Now today, we thought it was odd and experimented, and saw how it's different. I get a list of ALL my friends. Those online are in bold. The rest of my friends are now also listed, but paled out. One didn't come up at all on any list on the site despite being a sl friend and this raised questions today so we played about to work out what might have happened....turns out she is hiding (understandably for some personal reasons--long story and irrelevant). So I realise that we now have extra tools to tell us about what some people are doing. Sooo....did you all know that this extra feature is now available, and does anyone still hide, and does anyone think this still works? (I choose to hide from one person only who is a rabid IMMer and demands to know what I'm doing and where I am, constantly...nobody else).
Inbred Texan
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09-09-2009 03:05
Yep your right that is how it is now. I usually just delete someone from my list if they continue to im etc like that. Rather than hide from someone online I'd much rather just roam about the cabin free from any of that type of disturbance. ;)
Tiffy Vella
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09-09-2009 03:20
I understand that, Inbred and will eventually end up doing the same I think. Just waiting until I feel the deletion will not attract any extra attention.
Inbred Texan
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09-09-2009 03:23
From: Tiffy Vella
I understand that, Inbred and will eventually end up doing the same I think. Just waiting until I feel the deletion will not attract any extra attention.


Hehe yeah I understand. I don't like just removing someone cause I assume they'll feel the loss of not having me on their list :D. JK but I don't want to cause any un needed drama or questions so I usually wait till they go off line. Then there isn't any concern cause usually people don't notice then. lol
Dekka Raymaker
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09-09-2009 03:26
I recently compared my calling cards to friends in my list, I had 40 calling cards more and to be honest I hadn't missed those who had taken me off their friends list, I did also notice a number of 'that's it, no more SL for me' messages in their profiles and quite a few without anything but basic info, ie no groups, no picks etc.
Clarissa Lowell
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09-09-2009 03:31
There are a lot of names in my friends list who I have no idea who they are, to be honest. In my early days I accepted any friendship invitation offered to me, and I didn't usually make a profile note how we met, etc.

If it is someone I haven't seen or spoken with in months, it would not hurt my feelings if they deleted me. I understand. A lot of friendship invitations seem given out by a misguided feeling of obligation for a few friendly words anyway.

My profile is in search, so if anyone wanted to IM me they could, regardless of being on my list.

As for 'hiding' I routinely also unclick visibility. I know they can see me anyway if they want to but lately I just like the peace and quiet. Again if they want to meet up they know how to find me.

I don't mind if they do the same. In fact if building, typing, etc. and someone comes online or goes offline it brings inventory to that calling card, undoing what was being done. I'm not really sure why that whole thing exists, to be honest. If I have a message to send to someone I send it if they are online or off. They can respond the next time they have time.
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Tiffy Vella
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09-09-2009 03:57
Ooo, yes. I realise that people do this temporarily, and I understand your need for quiet. One friend does this a lot...whenever he does a hunt, he hides from everyone on his list, then ends up spending a week apologising to us all (heehee a sweety, really). That's not offensive in any way.

But now the official site makes it really easy to hide from those who don't understand, but really obvious to those who know what they are looking at.
Dog Galicia
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09-09-2009 05:36
ok i must be thick or something because I don't understand the connections between calling cards, your avis sl friends list and the websites friends list. I thought you can't hide while online? i.e. even if you click the eye to be hidden people can still send IM's to you. They'll either be received by the hiding person or the sender is told the avi is offline. Either way its obvious to the sender that the person is online and 'hiding'.............so I'm sorry I guess I don't understand the OP's post.
Pserendipity Daniels
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09-09-2009 06:29
Did you know that the Emerald viewer tells you (if you are online - I don't think it does otherwise) if someone deletes you from their friends list, unlike the standard LL viewer.

Pep (has recently had fun saying "Why did you do that?" immediately! :D )
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Smith Peel
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09-09-2009 06:34
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Did you know that the Emerald viewer tells you (if you are online - I don't think it does otherwise) if someone deletes you from their friends list, unlike the standard LL viewer.

Pep (has recently had fun saying "Why did you do that?" immediately! :D )


It also tells you if you been muted for real.
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Dekka Raymaker
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09-09-2009 06:42
From: Smith Peel
It also tells you if you been muted for real.

well I hope it says "you've been muted hahaha!"
lorena Topaz
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09-09-2009 06:57
No offense tiffy,but you can always delete the so called friend that IMS you a million times over.
Seven Okelli
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09-09-2009 07:11
From: Dekka Raymaker
well I hope it says "you've been muted hahaha!"


in that AOL "you've got mail!" voice

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Imnotgoing Sideways
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09-09-2009 07:54
I never hide my online status and always give map. If you're on my friends list, you know where I am, every time, all the time. I'm open that way. (^_^)y
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Pserendipity Daniels
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09-09-2009 08:25
From: Smith Peel
It also tells you if you been muted for real.
I wouldn't know. ;)

Pep (No-one has muted me recently; the opportunity is always available though. :rolleyes: )
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LittleMe Jewell
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09-09-2009 08:59
From: Tiffy Vella
does anyone still hide
I did a few weeks ago. RL had me totally stressed and depressed and when I logged in I unclicked that box for everyone on my friends list, though I did turn it back on a few hours later for two people close to me. I kept it that way for a couple of days.

And nobody else IMd me during that time. It really was the solitude I needed.
:)


And there are a few that I never click the visibility for -- they are not close enough to need notifications when I log in and out.
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Jinnywitha Cleanslate
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09-09-2009 09:58
I don't think the hiding thing works anyway, as if someone really wanted to contact you, and believed you were online, they will IM you and then the box says "X is online" anyway. It's pointless.

As for the not knowing who people are in your friends list. Everytime I accept a friendship, I immediately take a few seconds out, to go into their profile, and go to the Notes Tab, and type in the date, and location and met them, and a little about them, as to why I added them.
I've always done this from about day 4 of my time in SL, and sometimes I look back and smile at the comments I may have added.

I also add notes to people's profiles that I might not have such great times with, and not added, so if I see a name I recognise, and can't think where, I check to see if I've got anything in their notes section, which can be very helpful at times.
LittleMe Jewell
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09-09-2009 10:27
The hiding has never worked if someone wants to talk to you or really wants to know if you are online.

But for the ones that would normally only IM you when they see you online, it does sometimes give you a bit of solitude when you need/want it.
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Bear Jharls
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09-09-2009 11:29
I picked up 2 new friends at the WA today. Turns out they're bots. First they friended me then began spamming me with teleport requests to their sim. No Hi there or nothing, the rude little beggars. So I muted them and kept them on my friends list. Just to mess with their little pointy heads.
Briana Dawson
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09-09-2009 12:29
I never hide my friends status and was mappable by anyone until I married printesa and then i turned off mapping to respect her privacy.

As for as the invisible thing goes. I do not mind if someone makes their status invisible to me, BUT, if you do this thing of friending me, and then making your status invisible because that is how you do everyone, or make your status invisible until you want to IM a person, then forget it, i will delete you.

There is no reason to have me on your friends list if i am going to see you as permanently offline until you notice me in the same sim or want to ask me a question.

And i do use an Avatar Online HUD for tracking new 'acquaintances' that i would like to talk to more, but they have not asked for a friendship exchange. Unfortunately, i rarely ask because i guess i don't want to feel weird.
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foehn Breed
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09-09-2009 15:47
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
I never hide my online status and always give map. If you're on my friends list, you know where I am, every time, all the time. I'm open that way. (^_^)y



*hint* Immy is! the Devil :o


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Smith Peel
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09-09-2009 15:51
From: foehn Breed
*hint* Immy is! the Devil :o


:p


That would explain a few things ;)
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Tiffy Vella
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09-09-2009 16:04
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Did you know that the Emerald viewer tells you (if you are online - I don't think it does otherwise) if someone deletes you from their friends list, unlike the standard LL viewer.

Pep (has recently had fun saying "Why did you do that?" immediately! :D )


I'm one of those emerald users, and never knew this, or about the muting....maybe I just haven't been horrible enough lately. If I deleted someone, and got an immediate question, I think I'd jump out of my skin and be really really embarrassed.
Dune Enzo
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09-09-2009 16:25
You can't hide in SL. Avatar online huds are available for about $300L. When worn and loaded with avatar names of interest to you, it alerts you each time they come on or go off. They don't have to be on your friends list or in any common groups. I *think* they will even capture the log ins and log outs of those you have muted, but would need to check that before being quoted. The avatars listed in your hud need never know they are being monitored this way. If you're offline, it can be set to send you a personal email notifying you each time a person of interest logs on or off.

There is no hiding.
Imnotgoing Sideways
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09-09-2009 16:43
From: Dune Enzo
...Avatar online huds are available for about $300L...
/me adds this to her list of "Ooh... People ~PAY~ for that?" (O.o)
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