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Angelrina Serrari
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01-07-2010 00:18
I know a friend in SL that is having a bad time and i was wondering, how will you know if a person dies in RL without notice in SL?
Lance Corrimal
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01-07-2010 00:50
From: Angelrina Serrari
I know a friend in SL that is having a bad time and i was wondering, how will you know if a person dies in RL without notice in SL?



orbituary in local newspaper?
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01-07-2010 00:54
People need to make plans to let their friends know when things happen to them. It's important.
Melita Magic
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01-07-2010 00:56
From: Angelrina Serrari
I know a friend in SL that is having a bad time and i was wondering, how will you know if a person dies in RL without notice in SL?


Somewhere on the secondlife.com website is a place that talks about this. Basically, with adequate written proof of identity sent along with it, people can request that Second Life release this information (that the person died) IF that person themselves request this directy of Linden Lab in advance. (Sort of, a Second Life living will.) Of course people can also provide for this in their real life will. You need not even give out your account information. Just put your av name and someone from your real life, can announce it for you.

Correct me if I am wrong someone or elaborate upon the details if you know them.

This has been asked in past threads so you might also search past threads here.
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Windsweptgold Wopat
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01-07-2010 01:24
Members of my family know to come in here and let ppl know if something happens to me. Maybe you could talk to your friend and have them make some arrangement
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Melita Magic
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01-07-2010 01:27
Put it all in writing by the way in case there are disputes about it - never know.

Taking it to a notary public if nothing else, wouldn't hurt also.
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01-07-2010 04:48
From: Angelrina Serrari
I know a friend in SL that is having a bad time and i was wondering, how will you know if a person dies in RL without notice in SL?


Their titler changes from "AFK" to "AFB"?
Ceka Cianci
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01-07-2010 05:36
when i die i have it in my will that my hard drive is to instantly be smashed then ran through a metal shredder and then burned with me so that all my secretes die with me :D

If they don't do this i will haunt all of them till the day they die then kick their asses the second they cross over..i figure with me having so much more time on god mode than them it should be a pretty good whoopin..
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Seven Okelli
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01-07-2010 06:48
There is this item, which is free:

https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=1136521

A person can prepare a note with RL contact info (or whatever) and a list of recipients.

If the person doesn't log in for more than 29 days, the note is sent to the recipients.
Lissa Pinion
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01-07-2010 07:12
There are rl companies now that will let ppl in the virtual worlds know that you have gone. Just google it. A few I saw from the article I read were free a few have a annual membership. The thing from xstreet looks promising altho I haven't checked it out yet.
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Lissa
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01-07-2010 07:36
From: Seven Okelli
There is this item, which is free:

https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=1136521

A person can prepare a note with RL contact info (or whatever) and a list of recipients.

If the person doesn't log in for more than 29 days, the note is sent to the recipients.


I"ve pondered getting this before, but the 29 day thing bothers me. Lots of people take breaks from SL for longer than that. It's not enough time.
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Ann Otoole
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01-07-2010 07:46
How many people can immediately name someone that died in SL in the last 3 years? One named Ginny and what you really cared about was the sale you scrabbled to as fast as you could go?

When you are dead it doesn't matter anymore. Worry about what you have while alive.
Scylla Rhiadra
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01-07-2010 08:00
From: Ann Otoole
How many people can immediately name someone that died in SL in the last 3 years? One named Ginny and what you really cared about was the sale you scrabbled to as fast as you could go?

When you are dead it doesn't matter anymore. Worry about what you have while alive.

What a really bizarre attitude.

The people I interact with in SL are just that -- people. Even if they are RPing to the hilt, and nothing like what they appear as in SL.

I don't personally know anyone in SL who has died . . . to my knowledge, anyway. But my friendships and relationships here are real, and even the minor triumphs and tragedies experienced by my friends, when they choose to share them, do matter to me.

SL is not a game, and the avatars I interact with are not in-game objects. They matter to me.
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Damien1 Thorne
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01-07-2010 08:20
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I"ve pondered getting this before, but the 29 day thing bothers me. Lots of people take breaks from SL for longer than that. It's not enough time.

The script is full perm, the time is set using llSetTimerEvent. It would be a very simple modification to change it to a longer period of time.
Seven Okelli
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01-07-2010 08:26
From: Ann Otoole
How many people can immediately name someone that died in SL in the last 3 years? One named Ginny and what you really cared about was the sale you scrabbled to as fast as you could go?

When you are dead it doesn't matter anymore. Worry about what you have while alive.


So SL is simply a commercial network? No social aspect at all? No one cares about anyone else here?
Naz Fride
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01-07-2010 08:31
Wow, if I died unexpectedly, I would have a WHOLE LOT of people in SL very worried, not least my partner. But I'm pretty sure I don't want her to be the one to write to my widow to find out what happened.
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Ceera Murakami
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01-07-2010 08:32
I've known several people in SL that have died. In one case, the person's closest friend in SL sent out appropriate notices to everyone they were aware of that might have known her. In another, someone dealing with the person's will sent an e-mail to everyone in the deceased's e-mail contacts list.

But if the person does not make some provision for notification on their own, you'll never know, and you have no way to find out. If you think it will matter to your friends and associates in SL, then put it in your will and make the account name and password accessible by the person executing the will, so they have access to your account and Friends List after you die.

One client of mine vanished for almost 2 years, and was presumed dead by everyone she knew in SL. Turned out, no, she had been overseas for 18 months, with no Internet access. But we had no way to know that until she eventually "returned from the dead".
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Ann Otoole
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01-07-2010 08:54
From: Scylla Rhiadra
What a really bizarre attitude.

The people I interact with in SL are just that -- people. Even if they are RPing to the hilt, and nothing like what they appear as in SL.

I don't personally know anyone in SL who has died . . . to my knowledge, anyway. But my friendships and relationships here are real, and even the minor triumphs and tragedies experienced by my friends, when they choose to share them, do matter to me.

SL is not a game, and the avatars I interact with are not in-game objects. They matter to me.

Yes but how do you know if someone:
A. Actually died
B. Feigned death to escape something
C. Forgot to pay a ticket and got sent to jail because they are not a rich person and lost their account/business
D. Walked away one day because of all the drama
E. Unable to pay for internet access for a long period
F. Got a new job/life/marriage/mate and buried SL so it would not cause problems
G: Some other "didn't die but vanished" scenario

Doesn't matter if you die. Dying is the honest and honorable way out. It only matters if one of the other multitude of circumstances happens. I have seen no shortage of all of the above in the short 3 years of my existence in SL and the majority of circumstances are questionable as are the levels of sincerity of many who claim to mourn those that really died. Which is why I asked how many people do you know who really died? Most people have simply forgotten those who passed on. If I die this afternoon nobody will even care much less remember me in a year.

I have seen enough in 3 years to know that unless a death certificate is published and associated to an SL account by the survivors or the announcement comes from LL then you don't and will never know the truth. I've seen too many scams to take it seriously unless the news is from an authority.

Sorry for being cold about this. If you care about someone then the reality is that the notification and details and grieving are going to happen IRL because you were close enough to have an RL relationship and SL is secondary. So if you care then make sure your death instructions include who to notify and how. Otherwise it doesn't really matter does it? If you care about someone then you should be close enough IRL for their family to know to notify you because instructions were left. So if you have not written out your instructions in the event of death then what? You just vanish and remain subject to the suspicions? If you care you will maintain this information as current. Think long and hard on this harsh cruel unattractive reality before making any assumptions about others.

When you get old enough then what I wrote will no longer seem unreasonable. A car accident or meteorite can happen at any random time. Write your instructions out and maintain them. It is a bummer but if you care about others close to you then you will.

And since you were diligent and wrote your instructions out then it won't matter if you die because everything will be taken care of.
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01-07-2010 09:08
From: Ann Otoole

Sorry for being cold about this. If you care about someone then the reality is that the notification and details and grieving are going to happen IRL because you were close enough to have an RL relationship and SL is secondary. So if you care then make sure your death instructions include who to notify and how. Otherwise it doesn't really matter does it? If you care about someone then you should be close enough IRL for their family to know to notify you because instructions were left. So if you have not written out your instructions in the event of death then what? You just vanish and remain subject to the suspicions? If you care you will maintain this information as current. Think long and hard on this harsh cruel unattractive reality before making any assumptions about others.


If you had said *that* first, I wouldn't have objected.

Even so, it can be difficult when people disappear from SL.
Scylla Rhiadra
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01-07-2010 09:09
Well, you are right, of course, that in most cases it would likely be impossible to verify that a "deceased" SL friend is actually dead IRL.

But I think I would take issue with the suggestion that one needs to be close enough to have an RL relationship of some sort to actually care, or have a right to mourn. I don't think that's the case with me, anyway.

And, in the final analysis, regardless of a lack of proof about the veracity of the claim, I'd still mourn someone I knew and cared for in SL if I were told that he or she had died. In part, this would simply be a response to my own sense of loss, regardless of why that person was no longer around. But were it to prove that the death was a scam, or false, I still wouldn't feel embarrassed: that's a reflection on the person who has scammed me, rather than on me.

I think I'd rather look "foolish" for mourning someone not really dead, than think myself so heartless as not to care when I thought this was the case.
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01-07-2010 09:15
From: Ann Otoole
How many people can immediately name someone that died in SL in the last 3 years? One named Ginny and what you really cared about was the sale you scrabbled to as fast as you could go?


Huh? I consider it a good year when I do NOT know someone online who attempts or goes through with suicide. The memorial SL did awhile back probably gives you an idea that people dying (for whatever reason) in SL is not uncommon.
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Kira Cuddihy
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01-07-2010 09:17
"because we care"... many of us care about people that we have only know for a few days or even minutes. To me it is always painful when I lose someone, even people that I have never met. Death to me is not something to be sad about, but to rejoice about. They are in Heaven now. Yet it is painful because You miss them, worry about their friends and family. We do have to make a choice sometimes regarding who we care about. Otherwise, life would just be too difficult. When I lose someone, I pray to God that they know that I miss them and are thinking about them.
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01-07-2010 10:12
From: Ceka Cianci
when i die i have it in my will that my hard drive is to instantly be smashed then ran through a metal shredder and then burned with me so that all my secretes die with me :D

If they don't do this i will haunt all of them till the day they die then kick their asses the second they cross over..i figure with me having so much more time on god mode than them it should be a pretty good whoopin..


The Ectoplasmic Avenger!

Way to go, Ceka. :D
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01-07-2010 10:21
There's another aspect to this. If I were to pop my clogs, I'd want my better friends to know that I hadn't just gone away without telling them, because they may think less of me for doing that - for not caring enough about them to tell them I was leaving.
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01-07-2010 10:34
From: Phil Deakins
There's another aspect to this. If I were to pop my clogs, I'd want my better friends to know that I hadn't just gone away without telling them, because they may think less of me for doing that - for not caring enough about them to tell them I was leaving.

*wonders* if your thinking about going in a low prim coffin or do you want the works? Seriously I'd like to go in one of those cardboard environment friendly ones.
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