Monday Beam, in world lawyer

Hi .. has anyone had Monday Beam represent them in any case in SL? I am looking for reliable representation for my own situation. Had a short meeting with him earlier today. Before I proceed I would like to have some sort of reference. I am sure you understand. Thanks. Oh, I am not interested in any details in any of your dealings with him, if any. Just that if he did represent you, were you satisfied with the service? Or know of someone who was? Thanks again.

As someone who plays a divorce lawyer in SL....What can an in world lawyer possibly do for you? (I assume it's in regards to an inworld dealing) If it violates TOS than you AR it and the Lindens are the govement....If it's land related...if it's your land you're in the clear about whatever you do as long as it abides by TOS....if it's someone elses land than they have the same rights....really I pull at my hairs wondering what an inworld lawyer can do about in world situations....unless you are only looking for mediation

Naming names like this are not allowed in the SL Forums. I believe only the positive can be discussed here (if that). I suggest you post in a SL Forum not run by Linden Lab for what you are looking for.

Oh , okay thank you... not wanting to name names, Mr. Beam already advertises his services in world, in search, etc. so I thought it would be okay to mention his name. But I think you are right about leaving it to LL. As slow as the process may seem.

She hasn't said anything negative . . .just sayin'

He claims to be an attorney in RL. You should be able to get his RL name and validate his membership in the bar. If the bar association where he's located has a mechanism for checking references, you should be able to do that. And so on.

I can think of lots of reasons that it would be useful to have an attorney with a presence in SL, but I can't think of any that wouldn't require RL work as well.

thank you all.. I think that as worlds like SL continue to appear and grow, legal representation will be come more and more necessary. the overlap into real world litigations, too, only complicates the issues, but sure makes for more jobs for lawyers. good suggestion about somehow finding the rl name, too. much more likely to get references in that.

If this guy is claiming to be a qualfied RL lawyer and offering actual legal representation (as opposed to legal roleplay when anyone with the right spiel could claim to be a lawyer) then he ought to be providing the RL verifiable details himself, surely.

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This sure feels to me like advertising/promotion disguised as a question. I could be wrong. It happened once.

Which, that it is an ad/promo or that you were wrong?

Some professions need to post RL information in order to be taken seriously and for people to find out about them. For example, I wouldn't trust a psychologist/councilor if they didn't have their RL info available for me to get references on.

As for needing a lawyer? You might want to consider this: You get what you pay for. If his fees are too low, then you might want to move on to a RL lawyer, one you can nail to the wall for poor performance.

you can check around with this organization perhaps http://www.slba.info/about.html?current=two

Legal representation can be a veeery risky thing to do on the grid. There are lots of rules with regard to the practise of law.

If someone gets reported to the bar for improper activities, it can make a big huge mess for a true legal professional. Usually the people playing "internet lawyer" actually aren't legal professionals; as such they don't have anything to lose. Real lawyers can lose their ability to practise, as can "internet cops" and "internet doctors" and so forth.

If however you are dealing with a real lawyer who doesn't goof around, expect some serious fees, expect to be subpoena'ing for the real identity of the parties defending and so forth ~ it's gonna get 'real life' expensive, and fast.

Note that I have no idea about this particular guy whatsoever. Best of luck to you.

You should always make sure your lawyer is licensed in the appropriate jurisdiction and find out whether that lawyer has malpractice insurance or not. You cannot do that without real life contact information.

I don't care whether or not someone holding themself out to be a lawyer is charging play money or not. Following bad legal advice could have serious consequences. That's why the legal profession is regulated, and why every state goes to great lengths to make information about licensed attorneys available to the public.

It's very relevant if a lawyer is admitted to the bar in the correct location. If not, he can prepare papers and give advice, but not represent you in court.

The relevant location for an SL court case is an interesting legal question. San Francisco, where their office is? Where you live? Where the other party lives? What if they are outside the USA? What if both of you are outside the USA?

What would be the basis for a case is another interesting question. You cannot reliably identify who is using an account at any given moment. For example, college students who share a room, and the account is set for auto-login.

Monday is the attorney that represented the folks that filed the false DMCA claim in this case
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Ahh, so the difference between a lawyer and a catfish, is one is a scum-sucking bottom feeder, and the other is just a fish, right?

How can the OP ask any questions about the person without naming names? In this case naming names is necessary.



Say what? Aren't you the one who believes only the positive can be discussed here, if that? Then why are you posting messages impugning this person's character for representing people filing false DMCA claims?

Unless what you said above only applies to everybody else and you're above such considerations.

I'm still confused as to what an "in-world lawyer" in Second Life can do for you. There are no courts in SL, there are no legally enforceable contracts in Second Life.

You can sue someone outside SL, or write up a contract that applies to SL, but all that involves RL lawyers operating in RL. It might be convenient to talk to them in SL, but unless their shingle has their RL name and where they're licensed to practice in RL it's just RP.

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one in Second Life.

LOL! You should really read your previous posts before you... um.... post.

You can make legally binding contracts in Second Life. The problems come when trying to prove them, and that most are not worth the time and expense of subjecting to legal process.

If they're legally binding then they're RL contracts. Drawn up by an RL lawyer.

A lawyer isn't required to make a contract. Writing isn't actually required. Writing is a good idea and a lawyer is a good idea if you can afford one, but neither is required to make a contract.

True. But how long would it take to educate a RL attorney about SL issues that need to be addressed in the contract, if the attorney had never used SL?

I'm missing your point.

Picky. OK. If they're legally binding they're RL contracts, and if you want to enforce them you need an RL lawyer.