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LittleMe Jewell
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12-19-2008 07:54
From: Lindal Kidd
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There's a way to get more "tier free" land to live on, but it's kind of involved. Make some alts. Make them all premium members. Form a group with yourselves and pool your tier. Buy a larger piece of land and live on it as one big happy family. Remember, each alt will be collecting 300L a week in stipend. You can use this to finance your shopping expeditions, or save it up to help defray the next round of Premium membership charges.
I went thru the calcs on this (calculated every which way possible) and if you pay your premium quarterly or annually, it is actually cheaper to have multiple premium accounts than to increase the tier charges on a single premium account. However, if you do not mind trusting a tier renting group, it is even cheaper to keep one premium at the 512 tier level and rent all the rest of your tier.

(all based on a stipend of L$300 per week since that is what all of my accounts, and future accounts for now, get).
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Czari Zenovka
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12-19-2008 07:56
From: Zen Zeddmore
if there should ever happen to be a glitch in your payment you could lose your avatar.
This is the penalty that premium users get for being premium. I intend to down grade to basic when my term next come around. I've invested far too much in this avatar to risk it being destroyed by 'outside circumstances'. Later if I want, (if i can) I'll make an alt and have that be my premium, but i won't deck it out or use it except for the land and support factors.

IOW, make an ALT and get premium on the alt if you've already invested heavily in your main avatar. then have your alt make a group and grant full permissions and offer no join group options. when you get land your 1st can the set it as home because it group land.


I've been thinking about this myself but have a question.

If my alt was the Premium member and purchased land (or more likely my main would "sell" the land I have to her) can my main retain all the ownership levels? This may be a stupid question, but wasn't sure if there could only be one "owner" with all the land abilities and every other group member wouldn't have them all.

Ok, I've confused myself with that one, but hopefully someone understands what I'm trying to say...lol.
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Atashi Toshihiko
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12-19-2008 08:06
From: Czari Zenovka
I've been thinking about this myself but have a question.

If my alt was the Premium member and purchased land (or more likely my main would "sell" the land I have to her) can my main retain all the ownership levels? This may be a stupid question, but wasn't sure if there could only be one "owner" with all the land abilities and every other group member wouldn't have them all.

Ok, I've confused myself with that one, but hopefully someone understands what I'm trying to say...lol.


If the land is deeded to group, and your 'main' account has all the group ownership abilities, it is possible for the 'alt' to have no control or say on the land functions. Once the land is deeded to the group, it really is out of the original owner's hands in every way, so if they don't have land abilities via the group, they have no claim or say at all. So make your 'main' the group owner, and the 'alt' just a member, or perhaps officer.

The group owner doesn't need to be premium, but someone in the group will need to be, in order to donate their tier. This way, a basic account could 'own' land and have all the land controls via the group.

That is the only way it could work though, as far as I know. Just 'setting to group' does not grant any group land priveledges, other than perhaps allowing rezzing and bypassing autoreturn.

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Cristalle Karami
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12-19-2008 08:09
From: LittleMe Jewell
I went thru the calcs on this (calculated every which way possible) and if you pay your premium quarterly or annually, it is actually cheaper to have multiple premium accounts than to increase the tier charges on a single premium account. However, if you do not mind trusting a tier renting group, it is even cheaper to keep one premium at the 512 tier level and rent all the rest of your tier.

(all based on a stipend of L$300 per week since that is what all of my accounts, and future accounts for now, get).

Up to a certain point - for me, there is no point to having an extra premium account because I'm past the point where a second account would give me a meaningful discount. I'm over the 1 sim threshold. Having a second premium really doesn't help me if I want to buy extra land because that alt's rate is not discounted as deeply as mine. It is cheaper for me to rent tier from Elanthius, whose rate is at the half-sim level, than to bring my alt up to the half or full-sim level.
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LittleMe Jewell
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12-19-2008 08:47
From: Cristalle Karami
Up to a certain point - for me, there is no point to having an extra premium account because I'm past the point where a second account would give me a meaningful discount. I'm over the 1 sim threshold. ..l.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I only took my calcs to the 1/2 sim level because I could never see me owning more.
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Oryx Tempel
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12-19-2008 09:31
From: Lindal Kidd
Personally, I find that I need about 8192 m2 to keep me happy.

You always were high maintenance. :p

To the OP: Like Lindal said, you'll end up paying someone, somewhere, regardless of premium or basic. I prefer to have my cash go to LL, but that's just one girl's opinion. Good luck, whichever you choose!
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Amity Slade
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12-19-2008 09:49
I have had both mainland and rented from private estates.

I have had two problems with private estates. One, is that I've been ripped off by private landlords, with no recourse, and lost a lot of money. The other problem I have had is that I have found private landlords who have turned out to be trustworthy, and offered terms that I liked; but then the landlord quickly went out of business because they could not financially afford to continue providing honest service with to terms I like.

With mainland, I was concerned quite a bit what I would do about bad neighbors moving in. I chose my mainland plot carefully, and I am quite honestly surprised about how few problems I have had with neighbors. My main disappointment is that I need to build in a skybox, rather than on ground and being part of a community. (The skybox gives some privacy, and the ground builds are unthemed so it's not aesthetically pleasing to be down there.) Other than that, my mainland experience has been much more hassle-free than my private estate experience.
Czari Zenovka
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12-20-2008 06:59
From: Atashi Toshihiko
If the land is deeded to group, and your 'main' account has all the group ownership abilities, it is possible for the 'alt' to have no control or say on the land functions. Once the land is deeded to the group, it really is out of the original owner's hands in every way, so if they don't have land abilities via the group, they have no claim or say at all. So make your 'main' the group owner, and the 'alt' just a member, or perhaps officer.


Thanks, Atashi :)
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Shirley Marquez
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12-21-2008 23:27
From: Brenda Connolly
And alo keep in mind that if you pay for a year upfront, and decide to downgrade or leave totally, you do not get any refund.


You don't get a refund... but if you downgrade but don't leave SL you continue to get your premium stipends for the remainder of your paid-for period so you can recover some of your money by selling your L$. If you cancel your account completely then you're just out the money.
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12-21-2008 23:32
From: Cristalle Karami
Czari, that rental price is at cost for a full-sim tier. If the studio building prims are not included in that prim allotment, then it is below cost to the landlord (e.g., bad business unless it's a loss leader of some sort).


That price would make a small amount of money if it is mainland or an old-rate (US$195/month) private region. By my math it would lose money if it were a current-rate ($295/month) private region.
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