People won't put money into a game.
If only that were true.
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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11-27-2007 04:02
If only that were true. _____________________
hateful much? dude, that was low. die. . |
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Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
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11-27-2007 04:07
I am retired in RL and wanted to make a little extra pin money. I do make a profit here--and sell what I think are good products. At least I have been told that often enough that my ego is happy. I live to create things--always have in RL too--and so that is a plus. But I have to say I have come to find out that a lot of my textures have been stolen *Sighs*. and that really has set my urge to do all I do here back a very long way There are other things too. People removing my scripts--thinking they can get at the code. (Then IM'ng me and complaining that I never put scripts in the objects in the first place--saying the the items are faulty and they should get their money back) Then there is all the Gaming with Alts--and now I read that the New Search is already being gamed and it is not even out yet... I guess I am losing faith in People--Some are so blatent about cheating! It really seems that the genious that it took to create this place is now being ruined by some of those that use it. It feels like SL is scammers heaven now. When I came here a year ago--it was not like that. Not at all. Some might say that SL is being ruined by the very people that created it. _____________________
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John Horner
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Join date: 27 Jun 2006
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11-27-2007 04:07
People won't put money into a game. Fair comment. I know a few folk who are making money within SL and by and large they all started in the days when it was possible to accumulate Lindens from almost nothing, which is no start up capital. The reason why was very simple. When you enter the world all the content you see has been created by someone else, in short there is very little Linden content bar the basic tools of land, air, sea, and sky. Avatars created all content, and in the beginning some people had original ideas that caught on and sold en-mass, thus creating capital which was reinvested into revenue producing assets mainly land. Today I think that land as in private estates is the almost only way of building up a real life income that is worthwhile in terms of the effort and time. Which requires capital, indeed a fair amount too considering the cost of each private island Sim. Which for new entrants equals serious cash. Of which many folk regard SL as a type of game Just a personal view |
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
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11-27-2007 04:14
People won't put money into a game. They will however devise many means to get other peoples money out of a game............... _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
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11-27-2007 04:42
They will however devise many means to get other peoples money out of a game............... If they'd only use their powers for good and not evil. _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
Posts: 3,676
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11-27-2007 04:45
They will however devise many means to get other peoples money out of a game............... I wish I knew how to do it. I'd love to be able to give up actual work to be a Second Life con-man. _____________________
hateful much? dude, that was low. die. . |
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Alpha Vargas
Crisis Core addict
Join date: 6 Mar 2006
Posts: 96
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11-27-2007 06:05
Mainly my real life. RL job commitments have a lot more weight than SL jobs or messing around with designs (off-commission).
Other than that... I don't really know what to make. I like building entire replica locales, but that requires land and money, and I'd need money to start, so I need to find something else to make money, but... <--- vicious cycle SL's performance issues (and my own poor, over-worked laptop) factor is as well, but not as much as the first two. |
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Kaimi Kyomoon
Kah-EE-mee
Join date: 30 Nov 2006
Posts: 5,664
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11-27-2007 07:30
For every US dollar person A takes out of SL there has to be a person B who put a US dollar in. So I'd say that the main reason for not making as much money as desired is that not enough other people are spending money.
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Lucy Zelmanov
Registered User
Join date: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 178
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11-27-2007 08:19
I'm not making money in SL because......
a) not enought prims. by the time I got my graveyard the way I wanted it I'd no prims left for the qazillion vendors I'd need for all my stuff. b) Grefing. Nobody actualy dies in SL, so I find it realy dificult to find ambulences to chase. c) Sim-crossings. makes it difficult to keep up with the few ambulences there are. d) day-night cycle. 3 hours daylight 1 hour night, this is blatent discrimination against the undead. e) AR system. How is a self respecting serial killer suposed to opperate when you can be banned for doing what the voices tell you to do. f) Dead/dying video card. Haven't had a SL fix in over a week now, and have to wait till the end of the week to get a new card. |
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Trout Recreant
Public Enemy No. 1
Join date: 24 Jul 2007
Posts: 4,873
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11-27-2007 08:28
People won't put money into a game. /me mentally calculates the number of games he's purchased and poured money into dating back to...hmmm...King's Quest, then calculates the actual amount of money he's put into games, including upgrades to the computer to make them run. Approximately US$248,000,000.00 since 1988. People will put money into a game. _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
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11-27-2007 08:32
I'm not making money in SL because...... a) not enought prims. by the time I got my graveyard the way I wanted it I'd no prims left for the qazillion vendors I'd need for all my stuff. b) Grefing. Nobody actualy dies in SL, so I find it realy dificult to find ambulences to chase. c) Sim-crossings. makes it difficult to keep up with the few ambulences there are. d) day-night cycle. 3 hours daylight 1 hour night, this is blatent discrimination against the undead. e) AR system. How is a self respecting serial killer suposed to opperate when you can be banned for doing what the voices tell you to do. f) Dead/dying video card. Haven't had a SL fix in over a week now, and have to wait till the end of the week to get a new card. How on earth do you make money in SL as an ambulance-chasing undead serial killer? I mean, who the heck are supposed to be the paying customers? _____________________
It's still My World and My Imagination! So there.
Lindal Kidd |
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Lucy Zelmanov
Registered User
Join date: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 178
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11-27-2007 08:50
How on earth do you make money in SL as an ambulance-chasing undead serial killer? I mean, who the heck are supposed to be the paying customers? I run a burger bar of course |
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Colette Meiji
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Join date: 25 Mar 2005
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11-27-2007 10:00
I run a burger bar of course  |
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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11-27-2007 10:54
I know a few folk who are making money within SL and by and large they all started in the days when it was possible to accumulate Lindens from almost nothing, which is no start up capital. Although many of the "big names" did start at those time, there are businesses out there who did follow a traditional startup-capital model. I certainly did, and I've managed to net pay back my startup capital (although as I mentioned, since I don't cash out, I've only paid it back in terms of recieving the same amount of free SL services) Avatars created all content, and in the beginning some people had original ideas that caught on and sold en-mass, thus creating capital which was reinvested into revenue producing assets mainly land. Yes, it is true that it's getting rather hard to find a niche. And I notice that the OP missed off that option from their poll. (I wonder what would have happened if someone had said they weren't making money because "nobody's buying my photography studio for some reason"? *joke*) |
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Lucy Zelmanov
Registered User
Join date: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 178
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11-27-2007 13:00
Pie too. Mrs Miggins Famous Meat Pies |
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Matteo Harris
Sweet's Loving Hubby
Join date: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 207
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11-27-2007 13:06
I make enough to be lazy.
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Oryx Tempel
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Join date: 8 Nov 2006
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11-27-2007 15:04
Pie too. Mrs Miggins Famous Meat Pies Are they made from undead people? Wouldn't that be cannibalism? _____________________
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
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11-27-2007 22:24
/me mentally calculates the number of games he's purchased and poured money into dating back to...hmmm...King's Quest, then calculates the actual amount of money he's put into games, including upgrades to the computer to make them run. Approximately US$248,000,000.00 since 1988. People will put money into a game. Yes people will pay to play WoW, CoH etc. but give them an optione to play for free like here, with nearly all the benifits of those who pay monthly? _____________________
Level 38 Builder [Roo Clan]
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 5,250
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11-27-2007 22:59
I know a few folk who are making money within SL and by and large they all started in the days when it was possible to accumulate Lindens from almost nothing, which is no start up capital. The reason why was very simple. When you enter the world all the content you see has been created by someone else, in short there is very little Linden content bar the basic tools of land, air, sea, and sky. It's a frontier story. And as private estate and tier charges increased, it froze out competition, thus *further* aiding those who had already begun early. I'd sure hate to compete against me now. What we are really looking at these days is the power of branding, marketing, and so forth. I bought a book about SL the other day, and saw a description of my region in it. There's the big difference. But the irony is this: when I got started in earnest, I felt *very* late to the party in early 2006. Should Philip succeed and bring the grid even partially universal and global, *all* of us will be 'in early'. There are over 200 million broadband users in the United States alone. Think about it - if the Company manages to be the leading provider of 3d internet, we ain't seen nothing yet. _____________________
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Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
Join date: 3 Mar 2004
Posts: 5,887
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11-27-2007 23:25
This forum isn't for general discussion; there are many Resident Sites where this discussion is appropriate - Resident Answers is for Resident-to-Resident help.
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