Your view on Mainland Price Trend and Tier

Am I the only one hoping that Linden Labs will pick up some of the abandoned lots to fix/complete/create molebuilds, linden roads, etcetera, to make things look nicer?
I for one would all be in favor of the governor owning ~25% of each mainland sim, using the prims for some minor landscaping and theming, and maybe improving the prim allowance of the parcels present by, say, 10%?

It really shouldn't be hard to get some 50-100 in world builders and/or stylists to make a variety of "resident hubs" within sims, or "greenlines" between plots. The first for community building within a sim, the second to keep neighbours in feud a little bit more apart.
It'd also work as a good showcase for builders, especially new and unknown ones. Just make sure any builds go through some board to check for (low)lag and quality first, then Linden Labs will have a huge selection of user created content to place in world where they see fit, it shouldn't be hard for a Linden to find a build to match the content in the area. Just a matter of pulling the right rezzer from their own library. I'm pretty sure many builders would be happy to create some things for free even.

I did what Blot said, but I needed to sell the 512 that day due to tier, so just kept lowering it until the bots snagged it at 3.0 sqm. (That was fine with me....my purpose was accomplished.) A land group I have never heard of (not that I have a vast knowledge of SL land groups, but the same 3 or 4 tend to deal on Warbluster) purchased it and set it at 20L sqm!!! That was almost 4 months ago and they have not budged on price.

Two 512s that actually face the ocean are set just slightly more than that (and haven't sold either and usually the oceanfront lots go quickly) but that one I sold just puzzles me. The only thing I can figure is it is a group that has enough tier that holding the 512 indefinitely is no biggie and they hope someone is dumb enough to come along and pay that.

Same thing will happen if you abandon, only it will be Linden that gets the payout, and controls the plot sizes.

Not all neighbors are bad.

And they're better now that you can't put up ad farms, casinos, griefing plots, and porn spam.

AND...I've personally found that if those awful spinning FOR SALE signs go up...one AR is all it takes for them to disappear again. Kudos to LL for staying on top of that one!!

Oh I should do that. I have one of those across the road from me.

A guy trying to sell his land for 3.xL/sqm (A week ago he was at 13...). He's got a spinning for sale, but requires you to buy a pass to enter the plot... O.o

- He drove off a very nice neighbor too. He's RL related to her and she didn't like him moving in next to her... Drove her off, and the two people she was renting out space to.

Ask people I know if they want to buy some L$ cheap, and have them send me the money outside SL.

Threadjack:

The hub lag seems to mainly be in Docklands, with a (currently) smaller amount in Moosehead. FWIW, I think many of them also view their land as being of more value doe to the very thing that is pushing them out of Docklands - the number of people going through there.

I actually think it is very valuable land *to the right people.* Someone focusing on clothing, avatar skins and shapes, or avatar accessories could do quite well there, particularly if they focused on a low-end market as a satellite store in that sim. Unfortunately, it seems like most of the locations there seem to want to sell high end (>L$1000) cars, planes, and trains, houses, textures, etc. The sort of things that may be desirable to people *after* they've established themselves a bit, but not so much for the new folks.



I would love to see something like that, especially on one of those plots near the hub. Knowing the sort of stuff you sell, too, it would (IMO) be a good fit.



True. I actually find Shermerville, etc. to be a bit of a white elephant. Originally designed as "first land" with a real-world suburban feel, it is somewhat crowded, with small plots and close neighbors. Some have flourished there, but it's a challenge. Great neighborhood, IMO, but it seems crazy to see 512m plots at L$50,000.

That said, I love the Shermerville land that I have now.

There aren't as many bots around as there once were, the bottom has dropped out of the market and even bot runners don't see the point in land trading.

Yeah. You can whine like that, or you can just do what was suggested and watch your plot sell in minutes.

And if you're leaving SL, you can at least cash out that small bit of lindens made from the sale.

Prices IMO are not going to go below L$1.5 per meter and will most likely stay a bit higher with the base price being L$1.7 a meter. The talk of mainland going to zero is just that: talk. One of the biggest land holders has already dumped 750K meters of land and prices are holding pretty steady.

But to answer the question about tier, I believe LL will leave it as it is because they are greedy, lazy and unresponsive.

I always give the same advice. Thanks for posting this.

NEVER abandon land.

In fact prices seem to be going up just a tiny bit.

Maybe 3 weeks ago it was around 1.9L sqm on average, with some few plots in the 1.7 range. Now it seems to be 2 to 2.3 or 2.5 average.

A very minor tweak up. It will probably wobble around here for a while until something settles or it goes up or down due to some other factor.



There are 3 very recently abandoned plots near me. ALL 3 of them are plots I would have grabbed if they'd been priced reasonably. They're right near me and would have been great to expand into. But the person went from 5L sqm to abandon without anything in between, on a sim where plots tend to sell for 2.

Worse, the darned fool put up banlines and then abandoned... so I've got support tickets and ARs out on them to get the lines down now that Linden owns them.

There are places where land still sells.

I think part of it is to write a descriptive blurb in the land tab, part of it is to chop the land nicely and part of it is to sell at a fair price but above what the bots will do. Everyone wants a decent plot to call home or put up a shop in, so I think land will keep selling. However the days of any old lot going for ridiculous prices will be gone for a while if not for good, or so the barons say.

I think people want 1024 not 512, for instance. Some people want a 512 for their one free tier lot, but aside from that I think people want something with a view, and a bit of prims.

Someone told me 100 sims hit the market at no buy in price? Did I get that right? All I can say is wow, and where was I...Lol. Also, they said the land market won't recover from that alone.

But it's like real life. I think a lot of a recession is convincing everyone there IS one, then everyone stops buying and spending at once. Then we all go down like dominos.

Well they wont make their land price back.

Even there, we may get a lot of traffic but most people are wanderers from the hubs there and Nova Albion. They arent looking for high end anything. I keep a nice collection of free stuff on my ground level floor for the wanderers



I still wouldnt mind a small roadside kiosk to sell my novelty thingies inexpensively in NA ;P

That can still happen.



I could use another 512 to do more than a box with textures and a couple lowprim couches, but I'm happy to have a place. The people I have met when I found them are nice.

Red Baron: I know about abandoning land. This was a good time and place to do it. An odd piece. It worked out.

Any eating of hamster pellets on the table for this prediction

When I wanted to sell plots fast, I put up a nice description of what I was selling. I sold 2 undersized plots - 416 or something... (whatever is the right division of 16 near there).

So I noted that they were still protected land, and I included small 17-prim houses in the sale, to show a buyer that the plot was usable, even as a store.

I also priced to clear, not to get rich. They were sold in hours.

The same tactic helped me clear out some thin strips. those 1x4 lines...

The ones that in fact are all around Blot's shop...
- If not for tier limits I would have bought his plot too (this was before he moved there) and reshaped everything into a 512 on one side and a nice healthy square on the other.

I priced those strips low, after cutting them to try and make them ideal for joining to their surrounded neighbors, and they were off my hands by the next morning - but still remain for sale by someone who doubled their price...

There's a 512 in Bay City for nearly $140,000.

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Holocluck - if your main concern is enhancing the visuals of the area and not to make money why not loan your building skills out for free? Or teach classes.

I know. Crazy isnt it?

Many lands went down to 50k until some showed up on the $L auctions. some loonies went flashback and thought it was May 2008 and everyone else raised their prices again. Hey it suits me I got a nice view from the east windows in the shop.

I'm full and have learned my lesson.