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SL shadows - Lovely, Amazing !

Dolly Heart
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02-06-2009 08:22
Really looking forward to the full intergration of shadows to SL. Makes such a big diference to look and atmosphere. Everything is so much more readable and easier on the eye with shadows.

It would be such an amazing leap forward for the 'look' of SL.

Lilith and I thought we would share some screenshots, as I must admit we got quite excited seeing shadows in SL.

Please use the link to see some SL screenshots with yummy shadows on Lilith's photostream at Flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30659775@N05/


The question is ....
When will we get these lovely shadows in the main client ?
Oryx Tempel
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02-06-2009 08:23
And will my computer be able to run SL at all?

Cool, though!
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Amaranthim Talon
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02-06-2009 08:26
Beautiful- is that the RC?
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Dolly Heart
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02-06-2009 08:30
it was Kristens's shadow client - Rev 5
I love SL with shadows
HoneyBear Lilliehook
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02-06-2009 08:31
Those are gorgeous....where/how?

EDIT: OK, saw above. Adding another thing to do to my list this weekend :)
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Oryx Tempel
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02-06-2009 08:31
From: Dolly Heart
it was Kristens's shadow client - Rev 5
I love SL with shadows

Hmm... Got a link? I might try it. Not having any love from the RC these days.
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Amaranthim Talon
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02-06-2009 08:34
From: Dolly Heart
it was Kristens's shadow client - Rev 5
I love SL with shadows

I run REv 5 usually but only now am using my PC with better grafix- how do i go about finding shadows?
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Marianne McCann
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02-06-2009 09:17
Ya, I *so* wish I could run this on my computer - but unfortunately it's not for every system, and even some nice, top end ones are out of the running based on graphic cards. :-/
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Dolly Heart
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02-06-2009 11:19
A couple of links below with info on the Kirsten shadow viewer and how to get shadows up and running.

http://diabolus.ning.com/profiles/blogs/experimental-viewer-kirstens

http://www.vintfalken.com/kirstens-viewer-sl-shadows-for-the-masses-with-good-enough-pcs/
Royce Boa
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02-06-2009 11:24
What will happen to a skybox that is built using "baked in" shadow and light effects if SL introduces its own shadows?
Milla Janick
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02-06-2009 11:58
From: Royce Boa
What will happen to a skybox that is built using "baked in" shadow and light effects if SL introduces its own shadows?

It will trigger a warp core breach in the flux capacitor.
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Dytska Vieria
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02-06-2009 12:01
Is it just me? I am not seeing any downloads for the SD viewer here:

http://www.armyof4.com/Kirstenlee/

Blog is not much either:

http://kirstenleecinquetti.blogspot.com/
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Ceka Cianci
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02-06-2009 12:06
will that work in kerstiens s16 viewer as well?
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Milla Janick
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02-06-2009 12:06
It's not just you. Kirsten stopped public development of SL viewers recently.

I put an older version (SD2-R7) on Rapidshare a while back when she took her downloads offline once before, I think it's still there:

http://rapidshare.com/files/170575156/Kirstens_SD2-R7.exe.html

I have some later versions somewhere, I'll track them down and upload them if anyone is interested. SD2-R7 is the last one where the snapshot function works, so it's the one I use.

On a tangent, I also had an issue with later viewers not rendering some things. Like the letters on lucky chairs.
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Milla Janick
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02-06-2009 12:07
From: Ceka Cianci
will that work in kerstiens s16 viewer as well?

No, it won't.
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Alvaro Zapatero
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02-06-2009 12:12
No Mac version? :(
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Dytska Vieria
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02-06-2009 12:17
From: Milla Janick
It's not just you. Kirsten stopped public development of SL viewers recently.

I put an older version (SD2-R7) on Rapidshare a while back when she took her downloads offline once before, I think it's still there:

http://rapidshare.com/files/170575156/Kirstens_SD2-R7.exe.html

I have some later versions somewhere, I'll track them down and upload them if anyone is interested. SD2-R7 is the last one where the snapshot function works, so it's the one I use.

On a tangent, I also had an issue with later viewers not rendering some things. Like the letters on lucky chairs.


I have SD2-R4, and it is awesome! Not only are there shadows, but the OpenGL limit on light sources is gone and it seems to blend multi-layered prim water to a smooth single layer for my ponds. Of course with an nVidia 8600M GT, FPS is not very good!
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Dana Hickman
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02-06-2009 15:10
From: Milla Janick
I put an older version (SD2-R7) on Rapidshare a while back when she took her downloads offline once before, I think it's still there:

http://rapidshare.com/files/170575156/Kirstens_SD2-R7.exe.html


"ERROR - This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times.

This limit is reached

To download this file, the uploader either needs to transfer this file into his/her Collector's Account, or upload the file again. The file can later be moved to a Collector's Account. The uploader just needs to click the delete link of the file to get further information."

:(
Malia Writer
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02-06-2009 16:59
I found them! Go to http://www.4shared.com/
then search for "Kirstens", several different versions are hosted there.
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Ceera Murakami
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02-06-2009 17:27
From: Alvaro Zapatero
No Mac version? :(

Nothing for Mac, or for Linux, that I have ever heard.

And on Windows, it is only for a very few high-end cards.

Oh well... I certainly won't be seeing shadows on any of my computers, any time soon.
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Malia Writer
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02-06-2009 17:37
Bummer. Apparently I have one of those graphics cards for which shadows don't work. :(

Oh well, at least I still have S16....
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Dante Tucker
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02-06-2009 17:41
The source code is still available in LL's svn repository.

I can compile for win and linux. not mac though.

Remember this is not Kirstens client. It is LL's. So Kirsten quitting does not mean it is gone.


If you can compile for mac, and would like a spot to host the binaries please send me a PM
Lace Skytower
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02-06-2009 20:13
How do you guys know that the 3rd party viewer is safe and will not steal your account info? Seems pretty risky...
Conifer Dada
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02-07-2009 03:13
I'm looking forward to when we get full dynamic shadows. I hear that they are on the cards but not for a while.

I tried the Kirsten viewer some time ago but my graphics card wasn't compatible - it worked but even with the tweaks there were no shadows.

For people whose computers aren't up to doing shadows, I think I'm right in saying they will be disabled, as is the case with Windlight skies and water reflections at the moment.

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Conifer Dada
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02-07-2009 03:14
I'm looking forward to when we get full dynamic shadows. I hear that they are on the cards but not for a while.

I tried the Kirsten viewer some time ago but my graphics card wasn't compatible - it worked but even with the tweaks there were no shadows.

For people whose computers aren't up to doing shadows, I think I'm right in saying shadows will be disabled, as is the case with Windlight skies and water reflections at the moment. So it shouldn't affect their SL performance.

In fact, isn't that the case already, that the standard viewer could draw shadows but they are disabled for everyone?

If you look up 'Second Life shadows' on Youtube or Google, there are more pics and videos of SL with dynamic shadows.
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