bill board ads

I still think there is a LOT of merit in this idea. It is arbitrary, but then again so many things in SL are arbitrary. The tier structure itself is arbitrary. And there are other means of advertising in SL.

I think it would be totally fair for LL to implement a policy that dissuades ad farmers by making punitive charges on tier, or severely limiting the land resale value for micro plots, and if they gave, say, two months warning, I cannot see how anyone can lose out (compared to ther policy initiatives initiated by LL).

I might reconsider the JIRA request - if it got votes, it might get adopted.

well write it up let us know

I have IMed and gotten into shouting matches with several of the worst offenders. Ultimately, IMing them does nothing. They don't care what people think. They don't think about people or community at all. All they care about is how many lindens are in their balance.

The only thing that will make ad farms go away is when we can click on objects someday and make them appear invisible in view like a mute feature.

While the "Impeach Bush" guy was around I proposed an idea to give zero prims on a sim if you owned less than 128 sqm on a sim.
I think I was being kind back then, 256 sqm would be better!
Do you really need less than 256 in a sim for a house or legitimate business in that sim ?
Im not even sure people need less than 512 !

It would work by making it far more expensive for people to own tiny pieces of land all across the mainland as they would need at least 256 in each sim they wanted a presence.
It wouldn't disadvantage normal owners since they usually own 256 or larger in one sim.

There's a problem with restricting prims for limtied sq meters. That problem is LL.

LL has allowed land to be cut up and sliced in all sorts of silly manners. That's the whole reason 16m plots exist in the first place. Heck, even LL roadways are idiotically placed in a lot of sims. Causing irregular parcels to crop up due to very poor forethought.

It would have made more sense for LL to keep the smallest piece of land size at 512m. Yes, it would have made the roads harder to build, or whould have made them more "squarish" in direction, but as the old saying goes "If you want the view, buy it.". LL doesn't have to buy the land they use for the roads, and they don't pay themselves tier. They could easily have retructured the roads to lay within 512m plot grids. With moving a few meters over here, a bit there, the overall effect would have been the same.

A bit late to do that now.

I bring this up because I have seen Residents build and live on 128m plots. It's all they could find and they have made do and some are very nice for all the few prims they have to work with.

Usually, you can find these plots right next to Linden Roads. Right where you found the most 16m plots that started this whole ad-farm buisness. Ad-cutters got thier ideas from LL. After all, what else can you do with a 16m parcel with only 3 prims by a roadside?

I honestly don't see a solution for any of this any time soon. LL is too focused on staying in the lead of the virtual web race. Advancing technology is imperative to staying there. I'll agree with LL on that. However, no matter how well the technology, if you stick in on a pile of shit, it's still a pile of shit. SL needs to be returned to the days where people wanted to stay here. Part of that is how it looks. Not just the highlights by pointing people to Linden Village, but for all the grid. A big turnoff for a lot is that they come in seeing all the shinies, then see the slums of the Mainland.

~Jessy

There's a trick being missed with advertising within SL. Advertising within SL should be a viable business model. Some RL company pays a mall owner a sum for a billboard style add (not a spinning cube in the sky on a 16M plot) and voila. The new Nike product (for example) is being advertised here.

However what we get in SL generally isn't billboard style advertising, it's eyesores and extortion and in some ways it would be nice if LL intervened, but wouldn't that upset those who like mainland particularly because such restrictions don't apply?

Is there anyone who's not an extortionist, or griefer that would be upset at a the few restrictions to make SL look a bit better and be friendlier?

I live on the Mainland because, in this way, I only answer to LL. Private estates can come and go at the whim of the estate onwer, as well as their finances (it's not cheep to keep an island sim), and the desire of the estate owner to stay in SL.

On the Mainland, I know I'll have my land as long as LL keeps SL up and running.

~Jessy

Are we talking about ad farms or actual billboards here?

Ad Farms - BAD

Billboards on the side of a building or road - Okay

I am not an extortionist or a griefer. I only own mainland. I will only own mainland. I will also oppose with every fiber in my being any and all restrictions upon land. It will start with your few "sensible" restrictions, then in a month or 6 months or a year, someone else will want a few more "sensible" restrictions. Pretty soon land in SL will be as regulated as it is in some areas of RL. I made it a point in RL to buy my land in an area with no zoning or building restrictions, why would I want them in SL.

Then welcome to the wild west. Where chaos insues and only the criminals who can take what they want win.

You may not have zoning or build restrictions where you live RL, but I'm willing to bet that if you put up a huge sign with explicit sexual acts on it (for example, not saying you would), I'm fairly sure the local law enforcement will be paying you a visit to say what you can, and can not, have on you land anyway.

Laws and regulations exist to provide common sense to those that have none.

~Jessy

Ad farms I hope, I have no real objection to billboards on the side of a building or a road myself.

Anarchy does not imply chaos. Merely the lack of a ruler. You will find more chaos in most major cities of the world, highly regulated and with many laws, than you did in the 'Wild West".

Most laws and regulations today exist to protect those in power and to provide them with more power and treasure taken from those they rule.

Yeah, but in the Wild West, there was Marshall Dillon with his six-shooters. And even when he was out to lunch, the saloonkeeper could rally a posse to round up the adfarmers and have them strung up from the nearest sycamore before sundown.

As is, the "no regulation" Mainland isn't free at all, it's enforced chaos.