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Ceka Cianci
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01-31-2009 16:20
From: Kidd Krasner The difference between investment income versus business income has to do with how it was earned, and is largely separate from the question of when the transaction occurred.
If I'd bought a large quantity of L$ on 1/1/2008 and sold them all on 12/31/2008, that would be investment income. The profit came about because of the increase in value of the L$, and not because of any of my own efforts. It would be treated as short-term capital gain.
If, on the other hand, I applied my own skills to build a scripted object which I sold in-world, making lots of L$ in the process, that would be business income. The income came about because of my own labor, and I'd owe self-employment tax if the business showed a profit after deducting expenses. that was pretty much where i was going with what i said..buying and selling lindens is investing and cashing out for profit..thats investment income. but the thing i was getting at with created income is this.. can the IRS tax us on that if it is still in world or is it when it is sold?? does it have a value if it never were to leave at all? i'm having a hard time seeing how they could until it came to the RL..
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Kidd Krasner
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01-31-2009 16:45
From: Ceka Cianci that was pretty much where i was going with what i said..buying and selling lindens is investing and cashing out for profit..thats investment income. but the thing i was getting at with created income is this.. can the IRS tax us on that if it is still in world or is it when it is sold?? does it have a value if it never were to leave at all? i'm having a hard time seeing how they could until it came to the RL.. Can they? Most likely. Will they? Maybe, but probably not without first giving fair warning. It has value because it is easily exchanged for USD, whether or not you choose to do so. Income is income, whether it's paid in USD, Euros, Yen, L$, or chickens.
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Ceka Cianci
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01-31-2009 17:06
From: Kidd Krasner Can they? Most likely. Will they? Maybe, but probably not without first giving fair warning.
It has value because it is easily exchanged for USD, whether or not you choose to do so. Income is income, whether it's paid in USD, Euros, Yen, L$, or chickens. they need a whole new book just for this i swear.. lol i mean if i come into sl and never cash out anything like a lot of people that come to sl do.. oh hell with it i give up hahahaha i'm just gonna treat everything as they can tax me on it and play it safe until i can grasp this ..i guess the versatility of sl just really throws me for a loop hahaha 
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Carl Metropolitan
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01-31-2009 18:51
From: Marybeth Cooperstone So I have absolutely no sympathy for those who think that they can avoid taxes. If you receive L$ for work you do or things you design and sell in SL, that is income. If you cash out, or if you spend in-world on things not related to your business (things for your entertainment), then you owe tax. That might be true if you actually owned those L$ before they were cashed out. But you didn't. As has been pointed out several times up thread, the ToS makes it clear that LL owns your L$ and may revoke them at any time. Furthermore--LL does indeed revoke L$ when an account is canceled. From: Marybeth Cooperstone If it is too small amount for the IRS to know about it, it is still your responsibility to report it on your tax return even if you could get by without reporting it. If you fail to report it, you are a crook. I'd respond to this, but I can't think of a way to do it without descending to your level of insults and name calling.
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