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Brenda Connolly
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10-02-2007 04:12
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Walker Moore
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10-02-2007 04:17
If anything, most of the EU should be paying US sellers *more* out of gratitude for the fact that they're not speaking German today.  This isn't going to end well, is it?  _____________________
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10-02-2007 04:21
If anything, most of the EU should be paying US sellers *more* out of gratitude for the fact that they're not speaking German today. ffs. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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10-02-2007 04:21
If anything, most of the EU should be paying US sellers *more* out of gratitude for the fact that they're not speaking German today. I'd say this thread is now officially Godwin'ed. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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10-02-2007 04:24
And you should be paying us for the use of our language Nah we've altered it to the point it is not recognizable as yours. But we could pay you Royalties for teaching us Colonial Imperialism........  _____________________
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Hiro Queso
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10-02-2007 04:25
Nah we've altered it to the point it is not recognizable as yours. But we could pay you Royalties for teaching us Colonial Imperialism........ LOL! Well let's hope your administration learns from our mistakes! /leaves dangerous thread  |
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Brenda Connolly
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10-02-2007 04:29
LOL! Well let's hope your administration learns from our mistakes! /leaves dangerous thread First they have to learn how to do it properly.......  _____________________
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10-02-2007 04:55
Well let's hope your administration learns from our mistakes! Wish ours did! _____________________
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Chris Norse
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10-02-2007 05:14
If anything, most of the EU should be paying US sellers *more* out of gratitude for the fact that they're not speaking German today. Don't forget how we kept the Russians out of Western Europe for 45 years. _____________________
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Deira Llanfair
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10-02-2007 05:40
Are you sure about that? Here, the minimum hourly rate is a lot higher than in the US. At it's highest in Washington (which is more than double that of some states), it is: $7.93, which is roughly £3.88. Here in the UK it's £5.52, which is roughly $11.26 dollars. I'd have thought that would translate into a higher average wage for UK workers. It must surely depend on buying power. Can you buy more for US$7.93 in Washington, than I can get for UK£3.88 in London? (My lunch of sandwich and yoghurt in London just cost me £4.05.) _____________________
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Deira Llanfair
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10-02-2007 05:44
And you should be paying us for the use of our language Or misuse, as the case may be. :-/ (No, this isn't going to end well.) Back to OP - that's a kind thought, but no - wouldn't work, I'm afraid. I had this nightmare last night where I was expected to charge VAT to EU SL-ers and I was adding 17.5% to 25L$ pose balls. :,( _____________________
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Victorria Paine
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10-02-2007 05:55
Nah we've altered it to the point it is not recognizable as yours. But we could pay you Royalties for teaching us Colonial Imperialism........ Yes except we're poor students of it, as Niall Ferguson points out. You can be an Empire and accept it, and just be imperialists, or you can be an Empire-in-Denial, like the USA is, and do a cocked up half-assed job at it. It's like the worst of all worlds, really. |
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Morwen Bunin
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10-02-2007 05:58
If anything, most of the EU should be paying US sellers *more* out of gratitude for the fact that they're not speaking German today. I could make some lousy remarks about this statement....but I won't. I speak German anyway.... Morwen. |
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Brenda Connolly
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10-02-2007 06:00
I could make some lousy remarks about this statement....but I won't. I speak German anyway.... Morwen. Nah, just ridicule it like we are doing, it's more fun and less stressful. _____________________
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Cherry Czervik
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10-02-2007 06:05
If anything, most of the EU should be paying US sellers *more* out of gratitude for the fact that they're not speaking German today. Actually, I find that offensive. |
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Colette Meiji
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10-02-2007 06:08
Would any other users be able and prepared to offer EU users a discount on in-world products to cancel out the VAT they paid on buying their L$? I know it'll reduce sales income which is never a popular thing, but it might help given the pain they've all suffered on tier fees.. I cant really wrap my head around this. The people of these countries passed these VAT laws. Not us. Do I wish they werent taxed so heavily? yes. Do I wish the tax didnt apply? yes Do I wish LL never opened up a branch in the EU so they could avoid all this? yes Do I wish that Linden Labs had given the correct amount of notice? Of course. Do I think people from non-EU countries should SUBSIDIZE the Euros' entertainment and SL business expenses? NO , NO, NO , NO ... oh yeah NO. I can agree the VAT is totally rotten. But why should *I* have to pay any part of a European's tax liability? |
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Cherry Czervik
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10-02-2007 06:11
I cant really wrap my head around this. The people of these countries passed these VAT laws. Not us. Do I wish they werent taxed so heavily? yes. Do I wish the tax didnt apply? yes Do I wish LL never opened up a branch in the EU so they coudl avoid all thise? yes Do I wish that Linden Labs had given the correct amount of notice? Of course. Do I think people from non-EU countries should SUBSIDIZE the Euros' entertainment and SL business expenses? NO , NO, NO , NO ... oh yeah NO. I can agree the VAT is totally rotten. But why should *I* have to pay any part of a European's tax liability? Agree with you there Colette. I think most people either are consolodating or are paying up, depending on load. I've said elsewhere, the cost of my VAT a month is about what I might spend one day on lunch. If I am being stingy. |
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Brenda Connolly
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10-02-2007 06:12
Actually, I find that offensive. At the risk of being pendantic, yes. When you consider Hitler had pretty much given up on Great Britain, after getting spanked by the RAF, long before we physically entered the War. That post is just an ignorant troll or or a poor attempt at humor. _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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10-02-2007 06:12
Actually, I find that offensive. Not to mention totally historically inaccurate. The US did not do more to stop Nazi Germany than the UK. If she wanted to draw that pararallel players in Russia should be getting HUGE discounts. |
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Cherry Czervik
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10-02-2007 06:13
At the risk of being pendantic, yes. When you consider Hitler had pretty much given up on Great Britain, after getting spanked by the RAF, long before we physically entered the War. That post is just an ignorant troll or or a poor attempt at humor. GODWINS!!! **edit** I don't think you lose the debate here tho ... |
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Cherry Czervik
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10-02-2007 06:15
Not to mention totally historically inaccurate. The US did not do more to stop Nazi Germany than the UK. If she wanted to draw that pararallel players in Russia should be getting HUGE discounts. SECONDED!! OK but that's so my girl Sofia had less tier to pay, therefore less tier for me to pay |
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Sally Silvera
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10-02-2007 06:15
whoooaaaaaaa..... I have a resident question?
Why does it seem that quite a few threads recently have degraded into nationalist debate? What does that have to do with anything? Enough to send anyone with a legitimate question running for the nearest crashed sim. Can´t we play nice or throw pie? _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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10-02-2007 06:16
GODWINS!!! lol to be fair some of these VAT threads could stand being Godwined. I mean 2-4 should be enough. Theres more VAT threads than there were ever concurrent Ageplay threads. Or even gambling. |
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Yumi Murakami
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10-02-2007 06:16
Agree with you there Colette. I think most people either are consolodating or are paying up, depending on load. I've said elsewhere, the cost of my VAT a month is about what I might spend one day on lunch. If I am being stingy. I think the issue is for people for whom it makes the difference between making tier or not. They can't simply raise their prices, because they'll become uncompetitive compared to US users who don't have to pay VAT. And they can't simply "sell more" because, well, if they could just decide to do that then they'd have already done it. |
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Colette Meiji
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10-02-2007 06:19
I think the issue is for people for whom it makes the difference between making tier or not. They can't simply raise their prices, because they'll become uncompetitive compared to US users who don't have to pay VAT. And they can't simply "sell more" because, well, if they could just decide to do that then they'd have already done it. You are right. Their Tax Laws make them uncompetitive. It actually happens everywhere. In my CIty many businesses have moved to the suburbs becuase the City Taxes are too high. |