Strongly suggest you learn RUSSIAN if you want to use SL!

I am suggesting this, because it is obvious that the KGB is now running LL. Do I sound RIPPED? You betcha! Short story....

Good friend of mine, who has 8 sims, with residents, tenants was BANNED. her sims TURNED OFF. LL refused to talk to her for days... she could get NO answers from them, then FINALLY, a snipit of the letter she got:

"Thanks very much for your patience while we investigated the situation. We placed your account on hold based on similarities to some accounts caught copying unauthorized content. As I'm sure you know, Linden Lab takes content protection very seriously. On closer review, your account does not appear to be an alt of any of the accounts involved, however, so we will be releasing the hold.

We are very sorry for the inconvenience this investigation has caused you. Your islands should be back online shortly, but it may be up to 24 hours before the show correctly on the map.

We have successfully reactivated your account, and your Second Life can proceed normally."


1st, NO, your SL can not proceed normally, not after your reputation has been tarnished!

If I understand this correctly, if LL thinks your account is SIMILAR to an ALT that has been copybotting, they will FIRST ban you, turn off your SIMS, Not talk to you, and then, when they get around to it, they will do some research? Tell me this is NOT crazy???

So, since its obvious that the KGB is now running LL, can anyone help me with my RUSSIAN?

Gwampa Lomu

omg thats horrible.

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(until you find your way out of the Cold War)


the "Delete Account" button is your friend.

Wow.

/me again wishes some real competition to SL would arrive so LL would have some incentive to not pull this sorta crap (edit: and the 97 other sorts of crap they pull). I fear they will never change as long as they are the monopoly in this space.

How does speaking russuian help if they don't answer?

My Island was copied once while we were all standing on it. Half of us were on the real island and the other half was on the copy one. We were looking at a empty club but all the people at the real club we could hear but they could not see us. A Linden came and asked us to log off so they could delete the copy. This was in 2007.

Not only did LL do the norm of "shoot first, ask questions later", but this statement is really laughable given how they often respond to people reporting suspected content theft.

Well, ever since the lawsuit, anyway.

Although, this IS quite heavy handed, and assumes guilt first. They have their main offices in California, USA, whose legal system is supposedly based on innocent until proven guilty. But this would be like, say, the state police seizing all assets based on an allegation or series of allegations you know nothing about. The police would lock you out of your home, seize all your rental property, and refuse to tell you even what the charges are. No phone calls allowed either. Then, when they get around to it, and have concluded their "investigation" and decided you are innocent of the "charges" they would let you back in your house, and return your rental properties (which during their seizure, they'd kicked out all your renters also, again without explanation), and THEN inform you of the allegations... but only in a vague and ambiguous way.

Breathtaking.

San Franscisco, CA........that's not the same. Remember Nancy Pelosi's Congressional District is there..........that part of California is over the top (even for this state.....and that's saying a lot).

That's bloody awful treatment...2 shots in the back first then a warning shot over the head!

Wrong order LL.

Russia is sooo Cold War. You need to update your oppression meme.

Maybe try Iran... or the United States.

Lawsuit.

Is it both ways now? Either LL "doesn't care" about content theft, or they're so Draconian about content theft that they put entire sims on hold out of even mere suspicion. Which one is it?

Or maybe this marks a brand-new change. I suppose we can thank Stroker's lawsuit.

It very well could be both. The missing fact that we don't know is whose content was suspected of being stolen in this particular case. While Linden Lab couldn't give a damn about most of us, I'm sure it has its favored merchants, whether it be those who know a few Lindens personally, or those who do enough business in SL that the merchant might actually sue Linden Lab for not acting.

The thing that Linden Lab consistently gets wrong, whether not responding to a complain, or over-reacting to a complain, is that Linden Lab takes action without making investigation. Either it ignores without investigation, or punishes without investigating.

В Second Life вы не обратитесь в КГБ, КГБ контактов вас.

The OP says the account that was put on hold, was done so as part of an investigation - and that once the investigation was over, everything was returned.

I think somebody that's paying 8 regions worth of tier every month should probably get the benefit of the doubt - that really doesn't seem like a fly by night disposable alt account. To just be shut down, presumably without warning or explanation, while the investigation works its course seems a bit harsh. Doesn't it?

Why did they even need to put the account on hold if the investigation wasn't done?

The investigation needs to take place before punishment.

Who is really happy with the prospect of spending a lot of time and money in Second Life, doing everything honestly and by the rules, but then have all of that suspended for over a week due to a false claim?

Fairness has two components. One is punshing those who are dishonest, but the other is rewarding the honest. If being honest doesn't net a better result than being dishonest, there's not much of an incentive to be honest.

Why insult Russians? This happened in Amerika.

PS. You don't have to worry about KGB anymore, it's the Mafia and Militsia that are the real problems.

The DMCA doesn't have an innocent until proven guilty approach. The content gets taken down first, and the other person given an opportunity to object.

In this case, it's not a strict DMCA take-down, otherwise there would have been specific instructions on filing a rebuttal. Nevertheless, when it comes to copyright infringement, that's the general norm. If they don't take action, or are seen as not taking action expeditiously, they lose their protections.

Reading the DMCA policy, the immediate take-down isn't really a problem, as long as Linden Lab allows an immediate counter-notification. The policy does specifically state that, "On taking down content under the DMCA, we will take reasonable steps to contact the owner of the removed content so that a counter-notification may be filed. On receiving a valid counter-notification, we generally restore the content in question..."

So it is a problem if Linden Lab is not contacting the owner of the sims immediately, and ignoring attempts from the sim-owner to contact Linden Lab. (The original post says that the sim-owner could not contact Linden Lab, but there are no details on how slow Linden Lab was to respond, so it's hard to evaluate whether Linden Lab failed there or did what it was supposed to be doing.)

Everyone wants them to react quickly. They have been doing well - this time it was an innocent customer, but everything was returned. They don't have a crystal ball.

They always take the most over reactive road when they decide to handle a problem.

They're on top of it:

http://www.massively.com/2009/09/23/second-life-content-creator-reports-infringement-gets-suspended/

Yes. Nancy The Red.

I would hate this to happen to me, however I believe everything did in this case is probably correct, Except, if they have the time to put this account on hold they have time to send an email straight away saying, something like…

"we apologise for the recent action taken regarding your land and holdings in SL, this is a temporary measure until a legal situation is investigated in SL, we will endeavour to rectify the situation as soon as possible and will contact you regarding the final outcome of such investigations"

simple.