Video card burnout?
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Veritable Quandry
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12-08-2009 18:16
From: Brenda Connolly If I can get it to wash my car and clean my house....... *And maybe one other thing.  The first two, no. Computers aren't quite there yet. As for that last one, there's an app for that. If you are feeling adventurous, Google "teledildonics." On a more on topic-note, I love my Asus G51 and would not trade it for anything. But I travel, and I like to be mobile. It added a lot to the cost of a computer. The desktop that Brenda linked has very similar performance to the G51. The GTX 260m is a slower 9800 GT card, and the laptop "i7" CPUs are closer to the i5's in performance. I spent about $1700, including a solid state drive, so if you subtract that cost, and add $200 for a 22" monitor to the desktop, you get $1,100 for better specs than my $1,500 laptop. |
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Erik Kayo
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12-08-2009 19:27
From: LittleMe Jewell If anyone still is having problems with the 8800 overheating, download and install the extra Nvidia tuning tools and do a manual override on the fan. The fan defaults to running at 30% and at that setting, my card heats up rapidly in SL. I was able to increase my fan speed up to 80% before the noise got too loud and that keeps my temps running at 60C with graphics cranked in SL. hmm... i need to do this.. but im a total dork, is this as easy as it sounds? i have no tech skills. |
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12-08-2009 19:31
From: Veritable Quandry The first two, no. Computers aren't quite there yet. As for that last one, there's an app for that. If you are feeling adventurous, Google "teledildonics."
I meant walk my dog........pervert!
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Tod69 Talamasca
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12-09-2009 04:26
From: Erik Kayo hmm... i need to do this.. but im a total dork, is this as easy as it sounds? i have no tech skills. Its easy. Download & install program. Run Program. Move a slider.
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Jig Chippewa
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12-09-2009 05:04
From: Tod69 Talamasca Is it a 3 Ghz Quad Core Laptop with 8 GB RAM, Nvidia GTX 280, and 1 TB Hard Drive?  Laptops have ONE tiny issue- heat. Even with those fancy coolers people use, they'll eventually burn themselves up. Ok, then there's the whole "Upgrade" issue. There's limits to how much a laptop can handle and with how much it's going to cost to do it. They're nice if you travel around a lot. But as a Main Computer.... bleh. Yes. You see I am a constant traveller. That means I dont even have one home (not boasting - it's the way my life has allways been set up) so I take my gear with me. A lap top is great for peopel liek me. I also have a notebook for meetings or youtubing when I can. Prolly the most used instrument in my bag is my Blackberry which is apped and loaded with phone and gear and pix and music etc. That is my workhorse and I constantly have it at hand. friend who is also in the same "industry" has declared she will not use a Blackberry ever again - she used it too much. But then... she refuses to wear anything by Dolce and Gabanna so I wouldnt trust her state of mind or judgment.
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Dawnee Swansong
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12-09-2009 05:41
From: Galena Qi
There is a free program called FurMark that you can use to stress test your video card. It has a feature to log your card temperature. My card never gets over 83C, but that is apparently too high.
I'd been noticing that my current laptop runs far cooler than my old one (which you could cook breakfast on ...) so I downloaded and ran Furmark, with SL running in the background ... .... hmmm it gave a score of 768 ... with a temperature of 0C. Is this even *possible*, or could it be an anomaly given that my graphics card* isnt on the supported list? It always does feel very cool to the touch ... *ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330 |
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Erik Kayo
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12-09-2009 08:21
From: Tod69 Talamasca Its easy.
Download & install program. Run Program. Move a slider. hmmmm.. i did that.. the NVIDIA ntune.. cant seem to change fan speed on my toshiba qosmio.. and now i get the blue screen of death when i open the ntune. plus my laptop is getting super hot and shutting down after a few minutes in sl. ugh.. couldnt wait until after xmas. |
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Veritable Quandry
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12-09-2009 16:19
From: Dawnee Swansong I'd been noticing that my current laptop runs far cooler than my old one (which you could cook breakfast on ...) so I downloaded and ran Furmark, with SL running in the background ...
.... hmmm it gave a score of 768 ... with a temperature of 0C. Is this even *possible*, or could it be an anomaly given that my graphics card* isnt on the supported list? It always does feel very cool to the touch ...
*ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330 Furmark is designed to run as a stress test, not while another program is running: they may be conflicting with each other...that might be an issue. Try downloading HWMonitor to run while SL is open, and it will record temps for the GPU, CPU, and hard drives. http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php |
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Tod69 Talamasca
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12-09-2009 17:50
From: Erik Kayo hmmmm.. i did that.. the NVIDIA ntune.. cant seem to change fan speed on my toshiba qosmio.. and now i get the blue screen of death when i open the ntune. plus my laptop is getting super hot and shutting down after a few minutes in sl. ugh.. couldnt wait until after xmas. Might not work for laptops. They're a Horse of a Different Color than Desktops. In a laptop, everything is tied together.... tightly.
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Micheal Moonlight
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12-09-2009 18:25
Heh...
my 8800 has run at 90-95 idle, 115-120 while gaming since the day I got it 2 years ago, when it dies, it'll be over to ATI since Nvidia just can't compare price/performance right now... tho we'll see when Nvidia finally has it's new cards (probably april)
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Micheal Moonlight
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12-09-2009 18:28
From: Void Singer that man LIED lol... good for people that travel al ot, check, good for people that want to use their computer wherever they happen to be, check. comparable in price or options or power, not a fucking prayer, unless all you do is word processing, and maybe some web browsing, and email, and you'll still pay more. meanwhile they are more expensive to repair, and more prone to damage.
don't get me wrong, you can get some really sweet setups for a notebook, but you'll pay through the nose compared to what it'd cost you to get a desktop with the same options.... and you just can't get the same top end you can with a desktop. Afraid I have to agree... everyone I know who has bought a good laptop with higher end graphics, it died within a year from over heating... laptops just arn't ment for such heat in a small space. |
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Erik Kayo
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12-09-2009 19:47
From: Micheal Moonlight Afraid I have to agree... everyone I know who has bought a good laptop with higher end graphics, it died within a year from over heating... laptops just arn't ment for such heat in a small space. thats me.. and im VERY glad i bought the extended warranty from the geek squad. no space for a desktop in my itty bitty nyc pad. |
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Jig Chippewa
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12-09-2009 21:22
From: Micheal Moonlight Afraid I have to agree... everyone I know who has bought a good laptop with higher end graphics, it died within a year from over heating... laptops just arn't ment for such heat in a small space. But if I dont expect it to work for more than a year or two??
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Micheal Moonlight
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12-09-2009 21:33
From: Jig Chippewa But if I dont expect it to work for more than a year or two?? Then you should be fine  I know myself I only keep a computer 18-24 months then it's time for a new one.. and that's even with upgrades during the 2 year period as companies send stuff to 'evaluate'. But for people looking for something to last them years and years... it's a bad choice. |
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12-09-2009 22:52
From: Jig Chippewa But if I dont expect it to work for more than a year or two?? then you are again paying more for the system than you would a comparable desktop. when you buy something, not only are their upfront cost, but there are also maintenance costs, and how long the thing will last. add to that that most laptops aren't very upgradeable, which for desktops improves their overall lifespan, and reduces repeat costs down the line. current tech just doesn't allow for a comparable cost/feature ratio between them... you pay a premium for portability and it does limit your options.
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12-09-2009 22:56
From: Veritable Quandry The Nvidia 8x00 series is well know for issues caused by the soldering that they used. Repeated heating (like running a graphics-intensive app like SL) will cause the solder to weaken, and eventually the card will fail. I'm no tech expert but I thought video cards were made by all sorts of different manufacturers and that nVidia was just the chipset?
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Peggy Paperdoll
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12-09-2009 23:01
From: Snickers Snook I'm no tech expert but I thought video cards were made by all sorts of different manufacturers and that nVidia was just the chipset? I think you are right. The 8000 series cards just run hotter than the preceeding series. The 9000 series card offset that by putting on bigger and better cooling fans. My 9800GTX+ is at least 20% larger in physical size than my old 8600GT..........to accodate that extra fan (actually my 9800 has two fans on it). |
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Milla Janick
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12-10-2009 05:14
From: Jig Chippewa But if I dont expect it to work for more than a year or two?? You should stop buying crap. |
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Dawnee Swansong
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12-10-2009 06:26
From: Veritable Quandry Furmark is designed to run as a stress test, not while another program is running: they may be conflicting with each other...that might be an issue. Try downloading HWMonitor to run while SL is open, and it will record temps for the GPU, CPU, and hard drives. http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.phpThanks Veritable .... I dl'd and ran HWMonitor and, with SL rezzing a crowded club and other stuff open (mostly Firefox tabs) it registered steadily at 53C ... pretty pleased! |
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12-10-2009 08:00
From: Snickers Snook I'm no tech expert but I thought video cards were made by all sorts of different manufacturers and that nVidia was just the chipset? you're right, although poor board design can add to that problem, as can multiple manufacturers using the same source for components like solder...
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Veritable Quandry
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12-10-2009 11:23
From: Snickers Snook I'm no tech expert but I thought video cards were made by all sorts of different manufacturers and that nVidia was just the chipset? Yes. But the issues have been across the 8000 series, so it is either a problem with the chipset as supplied by Nvidia or the reference design that card makers must follow to use the Nvidia label/designations. |
