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Steve Atlanta
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04-04-2009 16:14
Hello people,



As my title of this message said, my heart is broken. It seems my young friend xxxxx xxxxx has been banned from Second Life. I tried to ask him why, but he only says something about "griefing".

I guess "griefing" is a horrible thing, but I can tell you that xxxxx LOVED Second Life, and he spent countless hours roleplaying and building castles and neato stuff. I will miss him dearly.

So I ask. Is there ever any "mercy" shown towards a young follish person who made a mistake? Like errrrm, even being "grounded" has a time limitation.

Even if SL consented to like a 3 month suspension that would hold out a glimmer of hope for this young man. I have contacted this young man through another Forum and I can tell you he is the one who now is truly in "grief" Second Life was (IS) his favorite game!

Is there anything I can do to help the situation? I mean...how much damage could he have done? Is it at all possible that he can ever play SL again?

Please comment, but please remember there just a young silly guy, xxxxx who is really a nice kid, who made a horrible mistake, and might be salvagable and teachable if the rules are laid out for him sternly. I say he is a nice kid because although I know he can be naughty, he looks up to older more experienced people for friendship and guidance and yes, correction. I hope you can understand that as maybe you all have had a younger brother.

OK thanks
Steve Atlanta
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04-04-2009 16:19
From: Steve Atlanta
Hello people,



As my title of this message said, my heart is broken. It seems my young friend xxxxx xxxxx has been banned from Second Life. I tried to ask him why, but he only says something about "griefing".

I guess "griefing" is a horrible thing, but I can tell you that xxxxx LOVED Second Life, and he spent countless hours roleplaying and building castles and neato stuff. I will miss him dearly.

So I ask. Is there ever any "mercy" shown towards a young follish person who made a mistake? Like errrrm, even being "grounded" has a time limitation.

Even if SL consented to like a 3 month suspension that would hold out a glimmer of hope for this young man. I have contacted this young man through another Forum and I can tell you he is the one who now is truly in "grief" Second Life was (IS) his favorite game!

Is there anything I can do to help the situation? I mean...how much damage could he have done? Is it at all possible that he can ever play SL again?

Please comment, but please remember there just a young silly guy, xxxxx who is really a nice kid, who made a horrible mistake, and might be salvagable and teachable if the rules are laid out for him sternly. I say he is a nice kid because although I know he can be naughty, he looks up to older more experienced people for friendship and guidance and yes, correction. I hope you can understand that as maybe you all have had a younger brother.

OK thanks
Steve Atlanta


How young is he? Second Life is for people 18 and older. What did he do? Just a guess, but did he piss someone off and get turned in for being underage?

And not to be mean, but your last paragraph sounds like he is going to jail for stealing a loaf of bread. Being kicked out of a computer game isn't Les Miserables.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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04-04-2009 16:20
when you say young, how young?
maybe he is under age on the adult grid and got caught?
if he is a teen on the teen grid then this question really should not even be here.

Actually this question should not be here anyway, as we (the residents) have no say in how long someone is banned and if they are ever allowed back into SL.

PS looks like Brenda and I are wondering the same thing, if he did something and got caught for being underage.
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Tod69 Talamasca
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04-04-2009 16:37
Make that 3 for the under-age thought
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Brenda Connolly
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04-04-2009 16:44
If he is "banned" as oppsed to "suspended", most likely his age is in question. The only way back in will be to prove to LL he is 18 or older.
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Steve Atlanta
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04-04-2009 17:01
I have no idea how old he is, I was told he was 18 but I dont him in real life.

I myself am 50 and so I take a fatherly attitude to anyone 30 or younger, lol
Tarina Sewell
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04-04-2009 17:28
one less teen to worry about.. ; )
Dagmar Heideman
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04-04-2009 20:13
Well unless he did something so awful as to merit an IP address ban as well he can always just make a new account.
Amaranthim Talon
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04-04-2009 20:23
From: Steve Atlanta
I have no idea how old he is, I was told he was 18 but I dont him in real life.

I myself am 50 and so I take a fatherly attitude to anyone 30 or younger, lol
argh- you want to help him? Let him fight his own fights, maybe he will grow up - i have no pity for bullies- griefers are bullies- children that choose to grief -regardless of chronological age- deserve what they get.
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04-04-2009 20:53
From: Steve Atlanta
.... I tried to ask him why, but he only says something about "griefing".

I guess "griefing" is a horrible thing, but I can tell you that xxxxx LOVED Second Life, and he spent countless hours roleplaying and building castles and neato stuff. I will miss him dearly...

'Griefing' is intentionally causing other people grief - going out of your way to make somebody elses life worse. I have little sympathy for griefers, especially ones that say they love the world but try to make it worse for others..

Sorry that you're bummed about this but your friend needs to think about his actions a little more.
Ciera Spyker
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04-04-2009 21:23
From: Steve Atlanta
I have no idea how old he is, I was told he was 18 but I dont him in real life.

I myself am 50 and so I take a fatherly attitude to anyone 30 or younger, lol


I know you dont mean it but that comes across as a bit creepy to me...
Paola Delpaso
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04-04-2009 23:53
If the avvie got banned for persistent griefing and he now sees the error of his ways, he could just re-register with a new name. It it's an IP ban, he should better take up gardening instead. :o

If the "young friend" got kicked out for being underage (<18), he may register for the teen grid instead.

One way or the other, it's not the end of the world.
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04-05-2009 00:11
You do the wrong thing you pay the price, simple. I would suggest you find ppl closer to your age to worry about and leave this "kid" to grow up. One less griefer to worry about.
Rhaorth Antonelli
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04-05-2009 01:26
From: Ciera Spyker
I know you dont mean it but that comes across as a bit creepy to me...


why?

Is there something wrong with someone older being friends with someone younger?

I myself enjoy sitting and chatting with people well into their twilight years (70+) which would put them 30 years my elder

does that make it creepy on their end?

Or what if I like talking to a kid, or playing games with kids, kid games, because it is fun, is that creepy?

I do not think so.

(if you know they do not mean it that way, then why did you feel the need to say it felt creepy? almost as if you wanted to put a negative spin on it, because it makes you uncomfortable?)
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04-05-2009 03:03
From: Steve Atlanta

Please comment, but please remember there just a young silly guy, xxxxx who is really a nice kid, who made a horrible mistake, and might be salvagable and teachable if the rules are laid out for him sternly. I say he is a nice kid because although I know he can be naughty, he looks up to older more experienced people for friendship and guidance and yes, correction. I hope you can understand that as maybe you all have had a younger brother.


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04-05-2009 07:19
Good riddance.
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04-05-2009 07:28
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Good riddance.

they need to ban u heheheheh! any how all is nt lost. if itis a suspansion it'll end. if he is ip banned he can spoof his mac adress and start all over! Linden Lab WANTS you to play thier game. hehehe. they just dont want u to crash their sims or cost them monies. beyond that sky's the limit. :)
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04-05-2009 08:22
From: Ciera Spyker
I know you dont mean it but that comes across as a bit creepy to me...



That was sort of my gut reaction here too. Let this kid deal with the consequences of his actions....that's how we learn and 'grow up'. I'm gonna stop there....because if I go any further with my instincts on this one it's not gonna be pretty. But, leave the kid alone, he'll live. It's his 1st life that matters, not his 2nd.
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04-05-2009 10:30
From: Ciera Spyker
I know you dont mean it but that comes across as a bit creepy to me...


I see I'm not the only one who thought this whole thing was a little creepy...
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04-05-2009 10:59
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
why?

<snip>

Because....

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04-05-2009 11:00
From: Ciera Spyker
I know you dont mean it but that comes across as a bit creepy to me...


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Amaranthim Talon
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04-05-2009 11:12
Maybe- but she is not the only one with that thought
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Ciera Spyker
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04-05-2009 11:16
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
why?

Is there something wrong with someone older being friends with someone younger?

I myself enjoy sitting and chatting with people well into their twilight years (70+) which would put them 30 years my elder

does that make it creepy on their end?

Or what if I like talking to a kid, or playing games with kids, kid games, because it is fun, is that creepy?

I do not think so.

(if you know they do not mean it that way, then why did you feel the need to say it felt creepy? almost as if you wanted to put a negative spin on it, because it makes you uncomfortable?)



Umm if I caught a old man playing with my kids he better be in a wheelchair or behind a walker because its just creepy. And a 50 yr old is the most dangerous type and I will treat them that way.

you think i'm alone in this outlook? not likely, but i'll doubt they'll pipe in to stick thier necks out.
I dont have kids, but i know how 50 yr olds are in my profession. they are coming to realize they are fast becoming null in the world and need to feel the rush. Now before you attack for that statment. You know deep down this is a true statment or you havent reached that point yet.


is this a fair or accurate outlook? maybe not. But its a fact. Ive had grown men tell me over and over again how lost or rejected they feel and how the world is passing them by. Its a very real thing. I deal with damaged egos and personas a lot and theres some reallllly scary ones out there.

Married 50 yr olds are the worst. They see they are trapped and walking tightrope of job home and self awareness. Most cant handle it and they crack. they find they are "overqualified" they spend "to much time at work" for the wifey, or they wake up one day and realize they are old and the 20 yr old next door thinks your invisible.

ive heard all these stories over and over.
So yeah, it came across as creepy. Not changing my tune.
Talon Brown
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04-05-2009 11:17
I wonder how many of you that find this creepy would feel the same way had the OP been female and expressed a "motherly attitude" instead.

Edit: Too slow with this question. I see now at least one has jumped over the "it's not just creepy, let's just assume the guy's a pedo" line.
Ishina Xue
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04-05-2009 11:24
From: Ciera Spyker
Umm if I caught a old man playing with my kids he better be in a wheelchair or behind a walker because its just creepy. And a 50 yr old is the most dangerous type and I will treat them that way.
.... etc etc


You're f-ing crazy
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