What do you like to see in a good club?

Agreed - please give thought to the textures you use and make the environment as quick to render as possible.

Real people . . .

Pep ( . . . with profiles)

At my club, which is a strip club with themed events, I stream the music during events but don't tell anyone I am DJ. Because, for one thing, all I really do is stream the music, and not provide true DJ functions. And for another thing, I think the music should set the atmosphere for the dancers, so it has to be music that is good for stripping, and I do my best to also make the music in-theme. Taking requests that break up the mood of the music breaks up the atmosphere, and I figure if no one knows I'm playing the music, then no one will make a request. (Though for those who do know I'm streaming the music and make a request, I fill it if I have it, and our staff and some of the regular guests who know I stream the music usually ask for things in theme, which is good.) Another reason I want to avoid requests is because I feel bad about not having a song- I don't have to disappoint anyone if no one asks.

I'm reluctant to have DJs because it's not really fair- if they are doing the things the way I want them to, they are not drawing attention to themselves and therefore not making tips. Besides, I'm paying for my stream already, might as well use it. I do have two great DJs, who are more like emcees, who each do one show a week, and do an excellent job of integrating the audio show into what the dancers are doing. And they don't care about tips (I had trouble even getting them to use tip jars for a while).

Not many clubs are going to survive by providing real people. The clubs with idlers and bots will always top Traffic. It's pretty hard to provide a club with real people on a 24-hour basis. But a club that is only open part-time gets killed in Search because it gets killed in Traffic. In Traffic, 24 hours of mediocrity always beats a few hours of a good time.

I don't need many.

Pep (And no clubs at all will survive without real people.)

Search isn't going to bring in visitors for a new club. It's one of those words you can't search for. Go ahead and try it. Try any word you can think of that people might use to find your club.

How can you make yourself visible in that mess? Answer: You can't. Therefore, traffic is irrelevant. Search is irrelevant.

You have to find some other way of getting people to your club. If you don't have a plan for that, then you have no club.

A good DJ will also have the brain power NOT to play a request just becasue its asked for, what if its a complete turd of a tune, the person asking for it may be the only person in the room that likes that tune, and everyone else hates it.

A good DJ will play to entertain the majority, not just the individual request.

So "sorry, I dont have it" is sometimes a polite way of saying "your request is crap, Im not gonna play that in a million years"

Oh yea.....and a good DJ is one that talks on the mic, but not too much.

DJs that yap too much are irritating, people want to listen to good music not the DJ waffling on and interupting the flow.

I know what I don't want, I don't want ads. I don't want to go to a club that looks as though it is set in a shopping mall.

A space where I am not

On a serious note, I hate all the frequent reminders to tip the various people. They put me off the place the moment I hear one. An occasional one is fine, I suppose, because some people maybe don't know that tips are needed to actually run the place, etc., but every 15 or 30 minutes is just beeging, imo, and I don't like people begging me for money. For me, a largish sign on the wall is sufficient to understand.

I wanted something unique, beyond the 1 host, 1 DJ, 3 dancers, 1 manager standing off to the side, incessant sploder reminders, "Don't forget to tip the host/dancer/manager/venue/DJ/the owner's roommate's cousin/Bob" every 30 seconds, "click the ball to dance" every 30 seconds, cliques, contest boards, "I love this tuuuuuuune", "hoooooo!", "I love this DJ!".

I guess it's one of those "easier to say what you don't want" things.

Honestly, if I'm not going to see a live musician, all I usually want is an attractive build, some nice house music (doesn't need to be a live DJ), low lag, and some serious attention to the dance animations provided. So far my favorite venues for this have hit all the required marks except for low lag. They are usually verrrry laggy, hence why I don't really go to them very often.

Curious that so many people notice this one. It's odd, isn't it? It happens often enough to be annoying, yet nobody ever says anything specific about the song or the artist.

That's because this is a bot. When you hear this it is probably a bot.

You know when there are humans present. They talk about their job, their computer, Second Life, their car, their country, the weather, the time of day and how late they're up, someone's nifty boots, their pets, what they're eating at the keyboard, something they remember at the club that's different now, is voice working here?, etc etc etc. You may not be able to tell 100% certain that a particular avatar is a bot, but you know 100% certain when there are multiple humans present. They have actual conversation.

And sometimes they recognize the song and talk about it. Sometimes that's a simple "I love this song", but that generally gets people to say something specific about it.

When all you ever hear about the music is "I love this song", repeatedly, you're in the presence of chat bots.

Agreeing with most that has been said, and want to add this: Please, please do not punish people who don't have dance huds of their own by making them do freebie dances. If you have a dance ball, then put some decent moves in it.

I rarely enjoy listening to someone on the mic. The quality of stream and the music is way more important. Most times I'd rather they not talk at all. A hud/titler/wall board with the current song is plenty for announcing what song it is.

I had an ex that played that gesture a LOT....

Though admittedly, all the real conversation went on with voice in that social circle.

Customers.

Host/ Hostress, Managers and Dancers that actually do their job, i am tired of clubs where the employees are so busy, that they cant even bother to greet there patrons. When i go to a club i want to feel like I am wanted there and not burden, employees need to go out of there way to talk to patrons, Everyone should feel welcome

The Stripper thing is pretty over done in SL, I prefer clubs where the patrons are allow to dance naked if they want too

This. If your staff uses gestures instead of actual conversation, you suck.

Not necessarily. Real live idiots do it too. People whose voices I've heard on voice. I know they're there because I can hear them talking to their dog/TV/wife. They say they don't mix RL with SL but they do it regardless - trying to socialise in two different venues at once.

Most of the people I socialise with make sure they invite noobies or new patrons to use their chims, instructing them how to find it if necessary, or inviting them by command line in chat.

What I've found I've liked in the few clubs I've been to:

1. Themed events. Doesn't even have to be "best of," it could be things like (I'll hit up T1 Radio in this) "What's the Connection?" trivia and things that encourage communication among all participants.

2. If live streaming, the host(ess) or DJ should only talk on the stream if they are between songs. Nothing annoys me more than a DJ talking over my favorite songs. If something needs to be said during a song, type it in local chat

3. Doesn't worry about having down time. Many of the good clubs don't mind having events 24/7. They stick to having quality events.

I'll add to this when I get back.. I didn't wanna forget to post

The way your club looks, and for second life purposes navigates, is a major factor. Specificaly I'm talking about camera panning, in that you can see everyone on the dance floor and the DJ booth as well as who comes and goes with out physically moving your avitar about. Hosts and DJ's don't count here, they have to live with being a little constrained.

Plan your club around the type of people you want to show up, and keep them (your niche) in mind throughout the whole process. People that like naked dancers usually don't like flashing lights and a palm tree blocking the view and on the other hand a Raver would'nt be without lighting.

Less is more when you design. The less you have to load the less your going to lag and the better for your customers that teleport in. There is a lot of competition in Sl for these Lindens so why place limits on a DJ that brings in good paying and usually a generous tipping fan base. Let them scream and shout, they are there to have fun not to be scolded by security. Everyone knows when the difference between having fun and gesturing malitiously.

People that are actually following the music usually gesture tastfully and it actually adds to the overall club experiance, contrary too some beliefs. A suggestion for those that dont like gesturing is to use the volume settings to turn it down or off. I know your saying ( I should'nt have to) well, it's everyones right to have fun and gesturing is as much a part of Sl clubs as your jiggling boobs and flexi prims, live with it.

DJ's: If your going to be unique and you reaaaalllly want to be top dog in the club scene your going to have to find talent. I'm not talking about DJ,s that can spin a CD on the VDJ without messing up or press the buttons on an IPOD. I'm talking about DJ's that create and spins their own music. Yes original music, not the stuff you buy off the shelf at Virgin Records or White Lable. You have to offer something unique and out of the ordinary.

Hosts and hosteses should give greetings to every guest as a number one rule. Other than that a helpfull hand navigating to the dance ball is all thats needed of them.
Dance balls that have the wrong dance steps for your style club are a big no no. Get dances that fit.

Awwww, shucks. If you've been told to stop gesturbating, perhaps you haven't been quite as tasteful as you think, hmmm?

If you have something to say come out with it and stop being coy. Hummm?

Me, coy?

Forum ..TROLL ... You ... yes... coy. 18k post... lol get another second life for the love of god.