Boxed or Objects? Opinions.

Noobs have no idea what to do with a box. Why does everyone, including LL, forget that new users need far more help and instructions than almost ever given in SL?

I have things in my inventory I've never used that came boxed with no instructions. Their vendors seem not to give a damn. I write asking for help and don't even get a reply.

I've all but stopped buying anything that cost more than a few L$ in SL until LL decides consumers *desperately* need protections there--and the majority of vendors need to be slapped or put out of business for delivering exceptionally poor customer service.

I won't buy a box since it's impossible to check the permissions of what you're buying (the next owner permissions on the box don't necessarily match what's inside of it) or to check which layer the item comes on (for clothing).

Lesser reasons:
* unboxing is always more work than dragging something that's already in inventory to its proper location
* being forced to rez the box makes it subject to rez failures

Its true that many have little or no customer service, it is also true that many do , Course you can't please everyone all the time however, I submit if the noob or whomever has problems buying boxes they would be completely stymied by some of the venders out there. There are 2 sides to this equation one being from the consumer side the other from the sellers. When I had only 117 prims on my first land it did not take long for me to realize I had to box things. I don't have many things with primage over 50 but now even with 30,000m's and the prims that go with it I still have to keep strict constraints on what is rezzed.If the seller does not have it easy or instructive to help buyers then his/her/it's/ biz will suffer so the marketplace will determine if the seller has no customer service . Also good to note there are noobs on both sides of the equation as sellers as well as buyers both need education and sorry opening a box is very basic, the copy to inventory could I guess seem intimidating so by all means do not support the content creaters, artist builders & designers and try to use the lame excuse a box is too complicated , please. There is much to learn in sl Inventory control one of them, oops blame the content provider lol. Do you blame Sears when your garage is full and dis-organized because of your spending habits or lack of organinization?
There isn't any one way that would be appropriate in all situations, again there is a learning curve to determine the sophistication or lack of it. Marketing is a science, and its definately in the best interest as a seller to present the buyer with the easiest transaction possible. What that is or how its implemented can be trail and error still after 2.5 years of selling successfully in SL don't take my word for it test, test, & re-test and as always shop at Fhelzgud some of my toons need dental work .
PS. Boxes in inventory can hide a lot of stuff, my inventory (huge) benefits by many boxes which contain what would surely send my inventory into the stratosphere and I won't call ya "Shirley" again I shouldn't need to point this out but good use of images and or text on boxes convey many bullet points that help sell the "sizzle", and can convey to those of other languages the contents

I agree! My inventory would be the monster loosed from the closet without folders. Often if I go on a shopping spree, I'll completely forget about an item if it's boxed only to find it months later. And I STILL wear a box now and then because I don't realize I haven't unpacked an item.

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Ok, right click any box in the content tab you can right click any object in there go to properties and see the perms "set for the next owner", not the current perms on it, it may be greyed and dim but its there.. I know its not fun and something else to learn but you can attach anything anywhere you please as well as re-name many things. Just because it attaches to pelvis doesn't mean you can't change it to attach to spine if you want. Tip when you open Inventory under File you can open a new window (Wow) with two inventory windows open one can take things from recent or anywhere and drag to the other windows inventory to folders you can create and name whatever for ease of finding like "purchased items", "clothes ", "Textures"etc. Much more of this gonna have to give biz 101 all over again lol, but I understand and so ask, what or how would you improve the sale of items? Keep in mind the discussion of noobs confusion esp if making the argument for try-ons which even though simple from my prespective tends to confuse the unaquainted as well as the limitations of prims .

Very good! Now kindly explain how to do that for the items inside the box when the box is inside the vending prim set to sell its contents which is the most common scenario with "Buy" and always the case with vendors .

Hint: you can't, you only get the permission on the box, not the contained items.

Well ty Kitty, as I have already suggested in my opinion the simple box is tried & true and best although not in all situations. Vendors have their issues, one you just pointed out and I am in complete agreement with you , what you thought I was for vendors? lol

You didn't quote who/what you were responding to, so it was hard (for me) to tell whether you what you said stood by itself, was in response to someone else's post or in response to mine (seemed to be the latter to me) .

I never read postings which someone could not take the time to make readable. This person must also be a vendor. Maybe English Composition 101?

"I never read postings which someone could not take the time to make readable. This person must also be a vendor. Maybe English Composition 101?"

Do not know what this persons beef is, but definately has some kind of bone to chew. Yes, I have a huge store and run Fhelzgud's Free Public Yard Sale. We do not require anyone join a club or split profits. Open to all and has been running in SL over 2 years. We have helped launch many businesses in SL and helped many newbies resolve thier issues. I am also an approved Linden Instructor and taught business 101 for a university in SL. This is a discussion about what ones opinions are, regarding the best way to sell things and I might have some insights on that subject, so maybe one with angst needs to relax, take a chill pill, smoke a bowl, have some Merlot, whatever ya need..maybe read a book if good composition is what you want (especially if ya don wan no stinking run-on sentences ). Personal attacks on this forum are AR's (that's abuse report's for the hard of reading) in the making, hope you can read & comprehend that . Oh and be sure that if you make another specious comment regarding me, I will do exactly that. Another Zen garden in Diss-array rofl, oops sorry, thats roll-on-floor-laughing.

Ray - Some people (my boyfriend is one of them) do not read what they perceive to be "wall of text".

They prefer things to be broken up by some kind of spacing.

Like I have done with this post.

While that may seem like a non-issue to you. Or even as if someone is griping or picking a fight ... such is the way some people choose to read forums.

For what it is worth, my boyfriend won't read books for the same "wall of text" reason. Indents, apparently, don't cut it and the letters overwhelm his brain. We're working on that.

Thanks Jasmine,

Your insight helps. Though, I have been around a while and participated in a few other forums I was unaware of the "wall of text" issue.

Actually thought it had more to do with me calling a box too complicated for noobs to deal with a "lame" excuse.

Funny too, that while an Instructer everything I taught was cut down to short sentences for easier assimulation. Think I'd have made the connection.

In view of this discovery, I will "chunk it down to easier convey my thoughts, ty again

I prefer folders, but boxes are Ok when needed. I just wish they would say boxe all they. I still sometimes put on a box that I thought was a prim attachment. As far as funky folder names, I rename most to fit my filing system anyway, so they don't matter.

I prefer a folder rather than a box which gives me a folder as its less work for me and the end result is the same.