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Entropia Universe SUCKS

Geuis Dassin
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Join date: 3 May 2006
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05-12-2007 10:16
I had to post this somewhere.

I wanted to try this other game called Entropia Universe that claims to be like SL. "We have a REAL CASH ECONOMY." My ass.

To install, it was a 1.2 GIGABYTE DOWNLOAD. Good god, thankfully I'm on a decent cable connection but it still took an hour.

Signing up, I had to give them *all* of my personal information.

Once I was finally able to log in, I was struck at just how crappy the graphics look. The first part, during the avatar creation process, sucks. You have SO much more control over the avatar here in SL.

Once I got into the newbie area itself, I was struck at how backwards the entire interface is. I wanted to just move around. JUST WALK AROUND. The default keys are mapped odd, so moving left or right doesn't rotate the avatar, you just strafe left or right. To turn, you have to bend your fingers to hid the Z and C keys.

So 20 frustrating min later I got to the area of the controls that are supposed to let you remap your keys. You literally have to drag icons from a panel to this virtual keyboard to remap it. Thats fine, except you apparently can only remap the f*cking number keys! Everything else was greyed out.

In the middle of my massive frustrations with just trying to set my movement keys, I keep hearing streaming advertisements in the background. SORRY, I DONT CARE ABOUT SOME DEUCHEBAG ART DIRECTOR IN NEW YORK.

The final straw, was that when I wanted to just sign into their forums to ask for help, it wouldn't take any variation of the username I had created.

All in all, its a really really amateur operation over there.

I know that SL has its own problems, but its SO much better to be home. Even as a newb 2 years ago, I was up and running in SL in a matter of minutes and everything was just laid out to *work* properly.

So, after having this horrible experience w/ this very lame looking game, I have NO interest in trying it again.

Try Entropia Universe out if you want, but my opinion DONT WASTE YOUR TIME.
Ex0dUs Montagne
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Join date: 28 Sep 2005
Posts: 109
05-12-2007 10:29
Entropia Universe, or Project Entropia as previously known is a Sci-Fi based MMORPG with a real cash economy.

Ive never seen a single thing claiming it to be like sl, seems that was your interpretation before you played?

SL isnt an MMORPG, its a virtual world, of course theyre majorly different...
Raymond Figtree
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05-12-2007 10:36
Sorry, this forum is for bashing Second Life only. ;)
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Verkin Raven
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05-12-2007 11:08
http://www.entropiaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67039

All this to fly a spaceship? I'd rather deal with sim border crossings or go play Eve. o.O
Skye McArdle
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Join date: 26 May 2006
Posts: 132
05-12-2007 13:18
Well, I'm not gonna say the Entropia is the best thing since sliced bread, and it will certainly never replace SL (home is where the heart is :) ), but as far as moving, use the mouse to turn, and the keys on the keyboard for forward/backward movement. It's laid out more like a fps movement wise... one hand on mouse, the other on keyboard. The spacebar toggles between the mouse controlling your movement and being a cursor.

As far as playing, SL is where I live and work, EU is where I take the occasional vacation. :)

Flying.. being a pilot is a job in EU. It is not anything to even consider as a newb.
poopmaster Oh
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05-12-2007 13:19
It's not match for the ease of use, simple quick download and ability to handle hundreds of thoussands of users like IRC can.....
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Alt Aabye
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05-12-2007 13:36
From: Raymond Figtree
Sorry, this forum is for bashing Second Life only. ;)



LOL good one!!
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Madison Winthorpe
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05-12-2007 14:12
From: Skye McArdle

As far as playing, SL is where I live and work, EU is where I take the occasional vacation. :)


I'm sure there's a fair few people on here who feel the same way ;)

EU is alright, so long as you can deal with having to pay out large amounts of cash into the virtual economy to do anything in it. Either that, or attempt to sweat animals for the rest of your time there ;)
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Oryx Tempel
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05-12-2007 15:40
So just out of curiosity (I'd never heard of it till you all just mentioned it) I started downloading it. Apparently I still have over an hour left... I've already given up.
Winter Phoenix
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Join date: 15 Nov 2004
Posts: 683
been there, and if I recall correctly, it SUCKED
05-12-2007 19:56
I was a beta tester on Entropia. The learning curve was atrocious. The satisfaction gained upon becoming proficient in the interface was meager at best. The highlight of my experience was sitting around with a prostitute who taught me how to..dunno what it was, turn on a map or something, and we sat around and talked crap for a while. Invited a friend in to check it out with me, and the first day she ended up raped and murdered in some woods somewhere. Blahhhhhh, no fun factor there.
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Osprey Therian
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Join date: 6 Jul 2004
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05-12-2007 23:54
EU = sociopaths' training ground
Aleister Montgomery
Minding the gap
Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 846
05-13-2007 00:20
Gotta love the forum moderation. Discussions about the currently most controversial SL topics of common interest are closed, while crap like this stays open (doesn't have to contain a question or be SL-related if it's somehow pro-SL).

*waits for the first "WoW suckz!!1!!!" thread*
Francesca Alva
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Join date: 17 Jul 2006
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05-13-2007 00:22
From: Skye McArdle
Well, I'm not gonna say the Entropia is the best thing since sliced bread, and it will certainly never replace SL (home is where the heart is :) ), but as far as moving, use the mouse to turn, and the keys on the keyboard for forward/backward movement. It's laid out more like a fps movement wise... one hand on mouse, the other on keyboard. The spacebar toggles between the mouse controlling your movement and being a cursor.



Hmmm - not too good for the disabled. At least I can function one-handed in SL.
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Usagi Musashi
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05-13-2007 01:31
I played that worthless game before. even with a 100m fiber optical connection it took hours to download that mess og a UI.

Take about your badly coded UI PE is so so bad, I can`t believe people really play that game. SL IU is a nightmare but PE UCK! I did catch a virus in the downloading of the installer.

"I know that SL has its own problems, but its SO much better to be home. Even as a newb 2 years ago, I was up and running in SL in a matter of minutes and everything was just laid out to *work* properly."

Well SL is getting itself, nothing improving nothing is getting better but we are growing for al the wrong reasons. Myself reaching 3 years on sl all I can say is LLABS if they are loking has 2 years left ( if they don`t act fast to correct al the issues internal staff hiring problems, nightmarish coders, JIRA version od DYI patch it and maybe you get lucky..........
Pie Psaltery
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05-13-2007 07:15
EU is primarily considered an online casino by many world banks, who refuse to transfer funds either to or out of the platform. Statisically is it set up in such a way that your chances of actually making any money there are about the same as you making any money from pulling a slot machine handle. Also, when trying to get my money back out of the game, it took no less then 3 months for the transaction to be complete, even tho Mindark was able to take funds into the game instantly.

So, if the question is, do you agree that Entropia Universe sucks? My answer would be yes, and the thing it sucks most is your bank account.
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Wanda Rich
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05-13-2007 11:27
From: Winter Phoenix
I was a beta tester on Entropia. The learning curve was atrocious. The satisfaction gained upon becoming proficient in the interface was meager at best. The highlight of my experience was sitting around with a prostitute who taught me how to..dunno what it was, turn on a map or something, and we sat around and talked crap for a while. Invited a friend in to check it out with me, and the first day she ended up raped and murdered in some woods somewhere. Blahhhhhh, no fun factor there.


The good thing about EU is that everyone more or less knows each other and judging by what you have written, its highly unlikely you were a beta tester.
I guess you were one of those who downloaded, installed, realised you had to deposit some money into it so quit.

There is no learning curve. You get a gun, buy ammo and shoot stuff. If that involves a learning curve (and a hard one at that in your words) then you should stick to space invaders.

From: Pie Psaltery

EU is primarily considered an online casino by many world banks, who refuse to transfer funds either to or out of the platform.

Another person who obviously hasn't even played the game. If you had you would know that there is only one way to take funds out of the game and that is through the developer of the game, Mindark.
Please list banks that consider EU an online casino and where they actually say that.

Seriously, if you are going to slag something off, at least get your facts right.
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05-13-2007 12:37
From: Wanda Rich
Another person who obviously hasn't even played the game. If you had you would know that there is only one way to take funds out of the game and that is through the developer of the game, Mindark.
Please list banks that consider EU an online casino and where they actually say that.

Seriously, if you are going to slag something off, at least get your facts right.


Ummm... shall I post pics of my Ghost armor or maybe the screens of my HOFs to prove I played the game for months before coming to my senses about how much money I was wasting on bullets trying to recoup some of the investment I'd made thinking better armor and guns would mean a better drops?

My facts are this: It took me seconds to get money into EU and more then 3 months to get it back out. I paid more for bullets every month then it would cost for a premium membership to SL for a year, I bought uber weapons and armor believing that investing would somehow pay off or at least eventually let me play for a reasonable amount of money per month, but the fact I came up on was that there were plenty of other games out there that satisfied my urge to socialize or kill things much more cost-efficiently.

Also, the avatars are ugly.
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Zammy Voom
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05-13-2007 13:03
From: Pie Psaltery
Ummm... shall I post pics of my Ghost armor or maybe the screens of my HOFs to prove I played the game for months before coming to my senses about how much money I was wasting on bullets trying to recoup some of the investment I'd made thinking better armor and guns would mean a better drops?

My facts are this: It took me seconds to get money into EU and more then 3 months to get it back out. I paid more for bullets every month then it would cost for a premium membership to SL for a year, I bought uber weapons and armor believing that investing would somehow pay off or at least eventually let me play for a reasonable amount of money per month, but the fact I came up on was that there were plenty of other games out there that satisfied my urge to socialize or kill things much more cost-efficiently.

Also, the avatars are ugly.


you lost money because you had poor tactics. uber weapons and armour certainly does not guarrantee proffit. yeah, the withdrawal process kinda stinks, but the important thing is that it does work, and you do get your money back (also, there is a new cashcard coming out that makes transfars instantly). and who wants to be attracted to a bunch of pixels lol? so what the avatars are ugly.

EU certainly does have its flaws, but it is a very good game to play, giving players the oppertunity to make money w/o even depositing (i know a few people who's avatars are worth $200+ and havent deposited a penny). i myself play, and have invested a considerable sum of money in there, and am happily watching it grow atm.

to the OP, it is possible to configure almost every key on the keyboard, the grayed out keys means you werent on the right setting page to change them, press all the F keys untill they turn bright.
you can also disable ads.
and the forum (i assume you're talking about entropiaforum.com) isnt owned by MA, its a privately owned forum. obviously your username was already taken.

its a veryhard game to get into, but once you do, its an awesome experience.
im in the same position as it seems a lot of you SL players are in. i've only just found SL myself, and im enjoying every second i spend in here. untill i dared to try it out, i couldn't say i liked what i heard about it. put bluntly, don't knock it untill you've tried it ;)
Forest Joffe
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05-13-2007 13:10
From: Pie Psaltery
Also, the avatars are ugly.

LOL - I think you lost a little credibility on when you got to this

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Walker Moore
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05-13-2007 13:19
From: Geuis Dassin

To install, it was a 1.2 GIGABYTE DOWNLOAD.
Ouch! That does not bode well for Patch Wednesdays. :p
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Valen Villota
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05-13-2007 13:42
I've been in EU for over 1.5 years and although I agree things can be improved quite a bit, the OP's hyperbole strikes me as someone who realized he didn't invest wisely enough. I'm mid-level in EU. I stopped depositing last September because I didn't agree with the direction the game was taking but I have a few decent weapons and items that have increased in value over the past 9 months and the best part is that I don't have to pay a monthly fee even if I'm not actively playing. I just pop in from time to time to see how my items are doing...

So, there are advantages and disappointments in any game... It's how you deal with them that matters...
Winter Phoenix
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Join date: 15 Nov 2004
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Didnt see you in there either, but Im sure you were
05-13-2007 14:09
From: Wanda Rich
The good thing about EU is that everyone more or less knows each other and judging by what you have written, its highly unlikely you were a beta tester.
I guess you were one of those who downloaded, installed, realised you had to deposit some money into it so quit.

There is no learning curve. You get a gun, buy ammo and shoot stuff. If that involves a learning curve (and a hard one at that in your words) then you should stick to space invaders.


Another person who obviously hasn't even played the game.

Seriously, if you are going to slag something off, at least get your facts right.

And I guess Im just making this up for the hell of it? So I can say, " YES FOLKS, IM ONE OF THOSE ENVIABLE PEOPLE WHO PLAYED THE GLORIOUS GAME OF ENTROPIA BEFORE ITS FINALISED RELEASE" Gimme a break. Was in there several years ago when it was called Project entropia. And it did suck. Spent a week or so in there dealing with a shit interface, lousy graphics and a totally obnoxious player base of idiots. Didnt recall needing money for anything at the time. Getting a gun and and just shooting stuff I could handle, but If thats all I want in a game I can load up DOOM. Sorry if I dissed your favorite game and ruined your afternoon. Just an opinion. Dont get all bitter about it.
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Hair Akebono
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05-13-2007 15:13
I'm a crossover member of both SL and EU and I think going into EU with an SL viewpoint or mentality isn't going to work as they are very different in philosophy and how they play. Its not for everybody just as SL isn't for everyone.

I wouldn't class EU as anything coming close to SL, but it does have some interesting nuances. SL and EU take very opposing viewpoints on in-world mechanics and how an economy if you can call it that should be run. EU also has a much more traditional MMO viewpoint, compared to SL which is a platform, so I tend to find both complements each other in that sense. Just as I enjoy a spot of Everquest 2 if I want some quick entertainment.
Darkscorp Decatur
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05-13-2007 15:58
From: Hair Akebono
I'm a crossover member of both SL and EU and I think going into EU with an SL viewpoint or mentality isn't going to work as they are very different in philosophy and how they play. Its not for everybody just as SL isn't for everyone.

I wouldn't class EU as anything coming close to SL, but it does have some interesting nuances. SL and EU take very opposing viewpoints on in-world mechanics and how an economy if you can call it that should be run. EU also has a much more traditional MMO viewpoint, compared to SL which is a platform, so I tend to find both complements each other in that sense. Just as I enjoy a spot of Everquest 2 if I want some quick entertainment.


I have to whole heartedly agree here. EU is almost the polar opposite of SL as far as gameplay is concerned. It is not for the faint of heart nor is it a very "friendly" world as SL is.

Its a Frontier world set in a Sci-Fi setting....its not a playground nor was it intended to be so.

Compare being place in a world inhabited by Klingons to one that is fairly docile..almost sheeplike..and you have EU over SL.

SL is "Cute"...EU is not. I should know..I've been playing both. Most EUers find SL hideously boring while those that I have introduced to EU from SL play EU more now than SL.

I'm sorry the starter of this thread found it so difficult to "Move" in EU. If he/she had spent some time reading the manual he/she would have found out that there are settings that would enable you to move easier and quicker than one can in SL. Many SL crossovers actually find EUs movement interface more intuitive than SLs.

On a side note...Our avvys may not be as "Beautiful" as SLs..but the landscape in EU far exceeds the primitive polygons SL produces.

Also,its true,the Download for EU is HUGE! But we are serious gamers and don't care what kind of bandwidth it takes to play,unlike SL...which doesnt really care what kind of Bandwidth you have..its always screwed up no matter when you play.

And SLs weekly updates? Pffft...we have one once a month if we're lucky,but we dont go offline for a day or so....only to have our stuff dissapear out of inventory like in SL..:P

Yes there are pluses to both games,SL inspires the intellect while EU caters to the darker,more primal side of human nature. Its all how you look at it.

Oh...and before anyone here goes off on EU being a gambling site? Wassup with 90% of the clubs in SL?

We just don't have camping stations in EU...lol
Colette Meiji
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05-13-2007 16:02
hmm maybe its time this moved to the off-topic forum
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