When are Lindens going to do something useful for aviators ??

Today for the first time I was trying out my starling Microlight from the ever impressive Abbotts aerodrome people.

As usual the vehicle looks superb and although its not easy to fly its fun learning...

...well it would be...

When are Lindens going to do something to help people who enjoy using aircraft... there are plenty of ways to crash and NOTHING ever seems to be done about them

1 Trying to cross a boundary between regions...still nigh on impossible even in a low prim vehicle... if youre lucky the best thats going to happen is that you spin out of control for several minutes before snapping into place, even lucker if your vehicle isnt returned to your lost and found, thats if you dont freeze and need to relog or crash out of sl altogether.

2 Hitting a full parcel.... its time all regions were given some sort of allowance for vehicles of all kinds. My microlight vanished and was returned to my lost and found.

3 As usual hitting a cruddy ban line when are these legitimised waste of system resources going to be turned off ??

Lindens is so busy restricting this that and the other when can we expect to see some of these interminable long running errors tackled ??

And how about a vast tract for people who wnat to fly vehicles of any size from small microlights, or single seater craft up to giant battle cruisers ?

You can knock together a continet to shift all the 'adult material' too so how about a place for people to use because they WANT to go there ??

I regularly go out flying, lately in one of the freebie Terra dogfighters. I've had little trouble going from Bay City to Abbotts or up to Gray.

Is there a Jira>

There's actually two bugs in region crossings and the spammy messages you get from vehicles.
1. Most of those messages you get are actually false positives. Nothing happened, some code in the server is printing a message, then going "oh, that's a vehicle", and letting you go through.

2. Some of the time, usually with a full parcel, it's not checking whether the vehicle is a vehicle (vehicles are supposed to be counted against sim overhead, not the current parcel) and starting the return process, then abandoning it partway through.

The latter bug is what's causing you to be half-unseated while flying, while the plane flies on. I don't know precisely which order it's doing things in... either the sim has told the client that you're unseated but it's still associating you with the vehicle, or the sim has unseated you but hasn't notified the client or the vehicle. Either way the updates between the client and the vehicle and the sim are broken.

Either the client is still talking to the sim you were and that sim has handed you off to the next sim, or the other way around... I haven't been able to be sure which is the case but the effects are the same. You can't unsit because the sim it's talking to doesn't know you're there. You can't move because the client is sending control events to a vehicle that's not getting them. You fall forever because the client isn't getting updates from your sim.

The fix to both bugs is for the sim software to check for a vehicle earlier in the process, and not go down any of the code paths that lead to you getting these messages or unseating you.

There's a related problem that happens when you hit an actual ban line in a vehicle. There appears to be some code in the sim itself to automatically unseat you if your vehicle is found inside a parcel you don't have access to (this is unnecessary, since you can't use this as an exploit to let you into the parcel) and again it's following the "bad" code path that leads to the partial unsit.

2 Hitting a full parcel.... its time all regions were given some sort of allowance for vehicles of all kinds. My microlight vanished and was returned to my lost and found.

thanks..voted as everyone should

Got my vote. Is there a JIRA for opening some of the waterways also?

LL needs to allow scripting on *ALL* Linden water parcels

I really never bother with flying aircraft, because of the control issues. But it's about 678th on my list of things I would change about SL. Just not a huge priority for me, and I'm not sure it should be for LL, either.

They have, they have ALWAYS had such an allowance. You are NEVER crashed out because there's no allowance, you're crashed out because Second Life lost track of the fact that your plane is a vehicle. It's one of a whole bunch of bugs that were introduced when they were trying to deal with temp-rezzer abuse a few years back.

so theres an allowance of prims on top of the allocation to land owners ?

how does it distinguish a vehicle from anything else ?

...Recently I've been fiddling with an airborne vehicle I built and scripted, and it's pretty fun to use. Once (and only once) I managed to get it from the east coast of Heterocera through the ANWR straits to Purple.

But I just can't see putting it on the market while it's impossible to use for any length of time or any great distance before crashing. The aggravation when one hits a full parcel on sim crossing is bad enough that, trip by trip, net positive experiences are rare. So a vehicle doesn't seem the kind of product it would be conscientious to sell...