Cassandra..to you and all depressed/anxious people!

I just have to say...I cant really post in the "Cassandra" thread anymore..its become boggled with so much...well CRAP!

I want you all to know..and this is hard for me to say...I am also an agoraphobic and I suffer from social anxiety. I dont want this to focus so much on me..as more of a place that people that really NEED help...can talk!

I know there are alot of people with anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts..etc! I have to tell you...im there with you..and if you'd like to talk..im more than happy to!...YES..i have made it..YES..i maintain! No, Im not perfect..i stay up too late..i dont eat right..but there is hope!!! AND there are ppl , ME...and others..that are here to listen!

Im not gonna tell you to go see a doctor..cuz I KNOW what thats like...IMO..doctors are just as bad as the disease!!!!.. I'd like to put out my email..and I just want you to know..I will do everything i CAN to be there for yoU!!!!! [email]yummyfreelunch@gmail.com[/email]

For all you flamers....if you've kept abreast of the news for the past year...suicides are fantastically above American Idol in the news.

I think..we are all quite a bit alike in SL...and no matter how much we HATE to admit it..we all need each other. Resident answers? hopefully

Thanks, Yummy.

blessed be, bri

/me is trying to work out why suicide rates for men are *massively* greater than for females, yet the forum (now renamed Residents Angst) is full of women (apparently) complaining about their problems.

Pep (Perhaps it's because we have to listen to them?)

PS Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

It is a wonderful thing to have someone that you can talk to when you are in a downward spiral and see suicide as the only option. Sometimes those 1-800 hotlines are not the help they purport to be. I am not going to say all the hotlines are bad, but my experience a couple months back was pretty bad with them harassing me for my RL info before even letting me talk.

Ultimately it was a friend in SL who put my feet back on the ground and that is often all that is needed: an ear for listening, a shoulder to lean on, and some words of support - these 3 things save lives everyday, even in SL.

- Yet women attempt suicide as much as three times more often than men...

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And you don't have to "listen" or "read" anything here.

I wasn't talking about "here"!

Pep (I come "here" to try to escape from that sort of thing - fat chance eh?)

Another thing we are considerably more successful at, eh?

Pep (It's a vicious circle)

And thats true, Briana...why the HELL do you want to give out your RL stuff when you are feeling like that!!!!

Come on...just someone to lend an ear...someone to relate...who cares where you live!!!!!!

Or..maybe men just dont talk about it like us women do..we all know..women talk, and talk, and talk..etc etc

Don't we men b***** know it!

Pep (replaces earplugs)

hahah...hopefully those earplugs have some good tunes... Im off for tonite...7 am..no sleep as usual..but hey...it's SL right?

I've seen up to 5 times more successful quoted in some sources. Male suicide success is usually attributed to their using more violent means (guns, vehicles, hanging) than women who are more likely to choose poison/overdose.

Yet women are apparently twice as effective at murdering their husbands/boyfriends.

http://fathersforlife.org/fv/fbi_spousal_murder_stats.htm

Pep (It's a question of motivation I suppose)

Thats a very nice and helpful statement and a very important hand for someone who feels all alone and lost. Yes it is very important to stick together in hard times helping and caring each other. I do agree with all Yummi said here and in both threats. Thats a prove that you arent alone with your problem - there are always other people with similar or even same situation. Stick together and open your mouth, do not be ashamed of anything that causes the problems.

As long as you still can shout out - you are on the right way. If you do not shout out your problems you will become silent and no one knows whats going on. I am sure here are many many who read this threat who have become silent, unable or unwilling to talk about anything. Please do not be silent. There is hope and there is always help.

Please do not locate the suicide problem in the USA only and do not use any international statistics. No matter whats written in the Wiki or WHO websites, no matter where you are, who you are, the reasons for giving up everything are incredible different and complex. But there is hope and there are people who want to give you the hand.

Often, when it comes to the very dark time when friends cannot help you with advises, you may reach out for other friends who go/went through the similar hard times.

Many in SL are from USA (I am from Germany) and maybe you have seen the documentation "The Bridge" about the Golden-Gate-Bridge and reasons for suicides. If you have a chance watch this, maybe you see yourself in one of those poor souls who aren't among us anymore. After this you may want to think about the statements of their family and friends. Do NOT take the statements as any advice because all the family members and friends in this documentation didnt really stick in the souls of those poor peoples who jumped. They were all alone and lost.


Again. If it comes to the dark times when you become silent wanting to stop everything there is only one way and thats a professional care. Beside this you really need to have close friends who do know whats really going on with you because they are in the same situation. It is very very important to take someones hand.

You are not alone- there is always hope and help.

no i dont think it is motivation.
i think women are just not inclined to leave themselves a mess. they prefer to to be found in a less gruesome state than males.

More likely because women actually talk about what is bothering them, which gets it out and gets some understanding and compassion back - whereas men tend to bottle it up until they can take no more and then they bail out.

Reference for the above statement is simply my own experiences.

And usually it's men that bother us.

First of all, I suffer from a deep depression and am in therapy for quite some time now.

That said, therapy might not be the answer for anyone. But someone to listen is always helping, let it be a proffesional, a family member or just a stranger.

I myself am the type that rarely talks about what I feel, specially not in open forums like here, and the reason I do so now has to do with the fact that I feel a deep urge to state a few things.

First of all, forget that wiki article, forget the statistics. They never show the whole picture and surtenly not contribute to the solution of the problem.
Suícide is the result of someone seeing no other means anymore than to end the pain by ending their life. To put them in stats after they died, is kinda ignoring the reason why so many actually do take their own lifes.

Secondly, support comes often from groups. I mean, the original thread, wich I followed, shows that there are many people openly admitting their situation. Admitting however, is not the right way to say it, sounds like a confession while it isn't that. It is having the courage to actually tell something private about your RL situation or feelings.

I therefor fully hope that this thread helps a lot of people that suffer from similar problems. And those that want to just bash: nobody forces you to read this thread. Leave it alone and respect the people that are discussing here seriously.

Maybe guys just get it right the first time and don't have to try again.

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/me looks at his ticket to hell and sighs. "Guess it can't be helped..."

By not listening?

Pep (My wife's biggest complaint)

I presume English is not your first language; trying to explain clearly your views on complex issues like this in a language not your own is likely to lead to your arguments lacking credibility. Your post reads like my 10 year old daughter's might on the same subject - she is overly sensitive and not very analytical - except her spelling is better.

You are entitled to make these suggestions. I am entitled to disagree with your views and ignore your suggestions, and recommend that the issues would be better taken out of the public view, or to another forum.

Pep (Does anybody here *not* have any problems they want to expose?)

Is there an echo in here?

Pep (Or maybe Scott's got me on ignore as well )

True Pep, English is not my first language and yes you are right that on these matters it is extremely hard to express myself.

Yes you are also entitled to your oppinion as much as I am entitled to mine.

Language is one of the main reasons why I normally don't respond to these kind of subjects, but in this case, I strongly believe that for a lot of people, coming to SL is a way to either escape from their problems, or a place for them to seek people with similar problems.

This is called Second Life, and therefor I do not share your oppinion that this does not belong here.

Ben (I think it's save to say that my english is much better than your daughter's Dutch )