Little Survey

Hi everybody,

In the context of my art studies, I have to perform a survey about virtual art, especially about Art in Second Life...

You'll find a few questions below, If you want to help me, please answer them, and e-mail me the result to [email]slsurvey@hotmail.fr[/email] .

Your Age:
Your Country:
Your Profession:

1) Do you know the Art market in Second Life? ( gallery, exhibitions, auctions ) ? What about it?

2) Do you think it's possible to buy virtual artwork? Are you seduced by this idea?

3)To finish, what do you think about virtual art?

Thanks in advance for your answers...

Mithgaladth

I don't want to give you a hard time, but I think these questions are really vague and I wouldn't answer the RL questions.

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Your full name:
Your country:
Your profession:
Your school:
Your professor:
Your real email address not some hotmail trash address:

Good luck.

I don't want to give you a hard time, but I think these questions are very vague. They make me wonder whether YOU know anything about art in SL.

Honestly I don't want to be mean, but what do you *really* want to know? Are you new to SL and thinking of opening a gallery?

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My name is Florian, and I live in France.

I am actually studying in 2nd year in LISAA ( http://www.lisaa.com ). I've never played SL, and I don't think I will, so I don't know anythig about art in SL ...

This survey is for a schoolwork, about virtualart, and especially in SL which is the most popular virtual society... It's only made to know what people from different origins ( cultural and social ) think about virtual art...

I didn't ask your personal details, and I won't give you mine ( such as my real e-mail address )...

I came here in order to find real SL players , because I don't have any in my neighbourhood, and I thought I could find what I'm looking for here...

If you want to help me by answering these few questions, then send me an e-mail, or write your answers below (but I'm afraid that it will influence people who will answer after you)
Otherwise I'll find another way to perform this survey...

Thanks in advance
Florian.

We get forum survey requests every week. Somebody with a brand new account comes by, says they're doing some school project and asks us all for some time to fill out a survey. Every week. Really.


You might get a better response from people here if you went in-world and took a look around. Go to Blackwater, Oyster Bay, the SL Louvre, Greenies, Black Swan - I'm sure others here can point you to dozens of other good places, too.. There is tons of art in SL.


Heh. Go try to buy a sculpture by Starax...

Why would we want to help you when you admittedly have no interest in SL at all?

We're all more than tired of playing lab rat for everyone who thinks all they have to do is create free account and post a few questions.

the odds of you getting accurate or truthful answers are slim to none.

I'll agree with Meade and go it one further by asking this question:

Do you know what kinds of virtual art there are and which ones are available in SL?

If you can't answer this, then there is no way any of our answers would make sense, unless you're looking for us to write your paper for you.

SL is very different from say, a website that offers prints for art, after all.

This is one blog on one aspect of art in Second Life, you should check it out, maybe answer your questions for you. I am a virtual artist in Second Life.

http://brooklyniswatching.com/

NPIRL, too!!

http://npirl.blogspot.com/

edit: oh! oh!! and Robbie Dingo!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV1YbWBSXS8

If you had taken the trouble to actually enter the virtual world as part of your research then you might have discovered that ALL OF SL is art. None of it is found, all of it is made. Your problem isn't whether "art" can be bought or sold, it is with your definition of Art itself. Everything in SL is someone's self-expression, and everything can participate in a market, if the creators wish that to happen.

Typical lazy french box-ticking pseudo-intellectualism, if you ask me.

(and I'm 43, British, and have been having snot-nosed university wonks like you for breakfast since I was in my 20's. And no, I ain't got no stingking degree...)

Wow harsh! I dislike surveys as much as the rest, but can you please leave name calling and nationalities out of this. I dislike any comment that assigns stereotyped traits to a whole group of people.

Answered above ...

While I actually agree with most of the criticisms/suggestions that have been made here about this survey, I would like to second Whimsy's point . . . If there was any chance that our surveyor might actually come into SL to view some of the really fantastic art that is being produced here, I'd say the hostility and brusqueness of many of these responses has more or less killed it. Why go to the not-insignificant trouble of trying out SL if it is populated by the rude and the intolerant?

That said, you really can't talk about SL's virtual art without experiencing it. The range and diversity of things to be seen here is astonishing, and ranges from the wholly original to the cleverly allusive.

NPIRL, as someone has suggested, is an excellent place to get a bit of a taste of SL art at its best: works that are really ONLY possible here.

In-world, you might also try Primtings, and ANYTHING (or indeed, everything) by AM Radio. You can find information about these through the web, but they are really meant to be experiential. And I fear that, without that experience, the data you collect is going to be at best meaningless, and at worst misleading.

What's more, most people in SL are really very welcoming You should try us and find out.

I'm sorry, but you are insulting us unintentionally by saying you never "played" Second Life and probably never will. Some people do play games within Second Life, but it is no more a game than is the internet itself.

For what it's worth I am an illustrator in real life who has been published world wide -- in France too -- back before the internet made that a less impressive feat. I have lot of ideas about virtual art, but I'm afraid I won't be bothered to share them until colleges stop sanctioning these lacadaisical unresearched surveys (if they are indeed sanctioning them).

If professors the world over are encouraging their students to do SL surveys, thinking maybe this will be an easy way to interest them, then they themselves need to get a better understanding of what the virtual world really is.

If you are still here at all, tell them that please.

Yeah - visit any form of online game / sim community and its getting 'farmed' by these so called research papers...



Isn't asking for all this RL info a ToS violation anyway?

People buy 'virtual art' all the time. Go to almost any online art gallery and you can click something somewhere to buy a high rez version of an image there. Doing it from inside of SL is really no different. the only difference might be that, far as I know, no one has built a setup to make high quality prints of the digital art you buy there and ship them to you in the real world - which is seen on some online art galleries.

(Frankly I'm kind of glad SL lacks that. If it got that tech, he next thing you know we'd be buying RL jeans, CDs, and pizzas in SL, and the wall between SL avatars and RL meat-bodies would break down completely.)

This, this might be of interest to you, original poster:

"Similarly, some of the first educators and researchers in SL were a bit clumsy in their approach. There were early incidents in which Residents felt—rightly—that they were being spied upon or treated like guinea pigs rather than human beings. Imagine how you would feel if an entire class of students set up right next to your vacation hideaway, left trash lying around, logged your conversations, and posted them on the Internet with criticism and mean-spirited comments. This is exactly what happened to some early Residents. Things have improved greatly in the years since then, but sometimes SL Residents are still subject to that kind of inconsiderate behavior. For example, a constant stream of researchers (often students) posts on the Second Life official forums requesting that Residents please take their surveys. Most of these surveys include the same questions that have been asked over and over. Often they aren't spell-checked, or refer to SL as a game—a sure way to irritate a substantial number of Residents. Some Residents make a hobby of critiquing these surveys, pointing out how the questions and their wording make it clear that the researcher isn't familiar with Second Life. Some post outright that they are sick of badly planned surveys and suggest that the researchers log in and do their own research."

From The Second Life Grid: The Official Guide to Communication, Collaboration, and Community Engagement
by Kimberly Rufer-Bach
ISBN-13: 9780470412916

If I could buy RL ferret avatars it'd be totally worth it.



Edit: yes, I know that's an aviator. Sheesh.

It's a shame the OP is uninterested in exploring SL, as I have found that some of the most creative artistic installations can be experienced only in a world such as SL.

If the OP is an art student, one would think she would be keen to explore a topic that she either choose or was foisted upon her.

I strongly encourage the OP to spend even a couple weeks of spare time in SL, specifically exploring interactive creative installations. There is a SEARCH feature, while borked sometimes, you can peruse events. You can also search for AM Radio's installations. This may also be useful: http://www.slthingstodo.com/main/AllThingsToDo

Good luck and enjoy. There truly is nothing else like it.

Fail

Have you also tried Gala, one of the Opensim sims? That is a huge Gallery of Galleries featuring young artists from Art Colleges around the world.

I will get the url for you later when I get home.

Rock

Please do.
Thanks in Advance.

@Mari...you love whipping that one out, don't you, sweetie?

if you can't be bothered to even try secondlife out then don't come on here and ask us on our time to help you with your supposed research.

Do your own work and stop asking us, try secondlife out and if you dont like it no harm done.

Get out of here, we don't want you here, if you can't be bothered we can't be bothered