Do you pay attention to group notices?

I just realized perhaps I'd better answer the original question that started the thread... lol



I read them. I can't say they draw me to events, because I'm usually offline when I get them, or know I have to go offline soon and can't go to the events - but I do read them.

I usually use the Events calendar to find events when I'm actually online to go to them. There are certain merchants I will never patronize because of their abuse of the Events calendar, and I wish the Lindens would police it better. Or even that I could find a way to report bogus events.

I don't like getting a ton of notices for each event. Let me know once, not two days before, and one day before, and a couple hours before, and an hour before... A weekly calendar on a notecard would be nice. I like Madhu's suggestion of a group IM during events rather than a notice - but I know some people find it spammy and distracting, especially if it touches off a group conversation. I don't mind - I know where to click to close it - but some do.

If I got a mass teleport for an event, I would be POed, unless I signed up for a teleport in advance.



That would work great for some events, and not others. I'd like it better if the sender or the individual had the option to have it self-delete or not. (Then again, you can always search old Notices for ones that have expired but still have a useful purpose like a group note or a gift. Or use Subscrib-O-Matic. I search old notices periodically anyway, because not all offline notices make it through for some reason.)

It depends on the group that's sending it. I usually give the notice a quick scan, and if I see it's a clothing release for a store's female section, I cancel it out. However, if it's for their guy's section, I'll take a look at it.

I've actually removed one store group that began increasingly to send out one or two daily "It's [insert DJ name here] night at [insert club name here]!" notices for the store owners' nightclub. Since I was only in the group for the clothing, I quickly grew tired of those daily club notices, and left the group. I rarely visit that store now, because I just don't remember to go there in person and check on a regular basis whether they've put out any new releases. If they'd created a second group for those interested in their club notices, then I wouldn't have minded, but they've pretty much lost my custom by spamming me on the clothing group.

I have a fight league with 350 members that I send notices out to concerning events. The problem I find is that everyone has a different idea of what they want from your notice etiquette. Some get annoyed if they don't get enough notices about my events, some might be getting annoyed that I send quite a few notices throughout a week.

You simply can't please everyone.

Yes, Yes, and Yes !!!

The only time multiple notices are valid, in my mind, are the following two scenerios:

1) If the original notice is sent many days in advance of an event, then you can send me one more notice the day before or hours before. During the event, use the Group chat - I can close that to ignore it if I want.

2) If a notice is being sent about Group policies, you can resend that lots because the current SL group bugs mean that lots of people do not get all notices.

I have a Planner in SL that I wear as a HUD (can also be attached to the avi). When I get a group notice about an event that I think I might want to attend, I add it to my Planner. The planner starts giving me reminders half an hour before the event and has a snooze ability. This is probably one of my absolute best finds in SL.


Yeah, while the avi dancing was really cool at first, it will only keep your attention for a few hours. I spend a lot of time dancing, but it is really just something to do with my avi while I am socializing - dancing with a guy somewhere while conversing in IM or dancing with my good friends at The Hangout while Chatting with everyone there.

I agree about the club scene, for quite a lot of clubs. When I DJ I do my best to engage people in conversation, though I do use gestures from time to time. There is nothing more aggravating that turning up at a club and not being greeted or talked to, even if I stand there asking questions and making comments, so I do my best not to act standoffish to anyone. When I'm not playing the music, I do end up club hopping just to see what other places are like, and quite a few of them are exactly as you've described. I can see why it would be a turnoff.

I've found that even when there is just me and four other people in the club, that we can still have a lot of fun. I would rather have a club full of friends than a club full of strangers.

As far as notifying people within my own group, I've laid off shilling for events I'm not working. I used to help out friends by trying to get people to come to their clubs, but it just isn't worth it to me to lose my fan base. So now all my group notices are about MY events!

*grin*

Really I think my only edge as a DJ is that I can and will play anything people request. It's a common tactic for DJs to say "I don't have that song" if they don't want to play something. I will not do this. I don't play for the clubs. I always play for the fans. And what the fans want the fans get. (I'll probably lose my DJ card for mentioning this tactic).

...and when you do, just type the &#¤%&/ SLURL, so I can click on it and arrive. Don't ask me to ask you to invite me so I can click on it.

http://lindens.lindenlab.com.s3.amazonaws.com/malbers/1-notif-while-notif-open.swf

Transcript isn't up yet, but should be sometime at http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Resident_Experience_Team_Office_Hours_Transcripts

Terrific suggestion; thank you! I will do that in the future.

Interesting thread. I use both group notices and group IMs, because some people read notices and ignore group IMs, and some people read group IMs and ignore notices. I've had people ask me questions that show they clearly "click past" the notices, even for a very non-spammy group. I say "Did you see the notice on that?" They say "No, I just blew past all the notices." D'oh!

I think the "send a notice beforehand, then send a group IM when event starts" is the best balance. Invariably, however, SL will decide it can't handle sending group IMs that hour. Or lately, I have found group notices won't get sent while I'm offline, nor are they forwarded to my email, though they should be. When I log in, the only way I see that a notice was sent is by looking at the Notice history in the Group info.

About socializing... I don't think SL is any less social than it used to be. But it's not just about going to a club and going "woot!". It's about taking the time to make real connections. And that takes time, and not necessarily hopping all over the grid, but finding a few *good* places and sticking with them and really getting to know the people.

In my club we are only busy a few hours out of the day, but we definitely DO talk. Yes there are woots and hoo's (and I confess, I STILL do that too) but there is also a lot of real conversation.

QFT.. once I login, I know I missed all the events I am seeing.. I still skim thru in case anything important pops up.

I like the IM's when events are str=arting, but the arts groups don't allow that.

I also don't like notices about events starting in 30 minutes, bc even if I do want to attend, I save the LM and minimize it to check back later, then forget about it until it's over.

I am only in a handful of groups. I think only two of which have nothing to do with business or land needs.

One of those seems like spams the same message over and over, they just change the date/time of the same event. I want to stay in just in case something official comes across (It is for a band I love), but lately have thought about leaving just to be rid of all the pop-ups.

My other account has a group for a store I went to. The owner was very nice, but now every day there are at least 4 new item pop ups. Those I just close out as fast as they come.

So... some I read, some I don't. But if I start getting notecards and Landmarks too often I am usually gone.

What do you guys think about group invites? I keep about 20 groups at a time, with room to add a club/group that I am dj'ing for temporarily. But i don't have room to add any more really, and I feel bad for turning invites down.. So usually I will accept the invite, then quietly delete myself a few minutes later.

Is that devious? Or am I just too nice not to say No in the first place?

/me eats a toasted marshmallow/painkiller pie

I'm honest about group invites. All the groups I belong to (with one or two exceptions) are employer/staff groups, or DJ groups like my own. If I get an invitation to a group I will IM the person and politely decline, stating that I am full up on groups and cannot take any more.

I will occasionally go through and leave groups for clubs I no longer visit, so I usually do have one more two spots open for new employers.

There have been times I've joined a group if someone has reciprocated with my own group. I'll usually stay in that group until I get too much spam from it.

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Interesting concept. Would be nice to be able to see multiple notices and prioritize them myself rather than having them stack and having to dismiss one to get to the next.

I wanted to see the "drunk linden dunking contest photo." They tease.

I treat unrequested group invites the same way that I treat random friendship requests - I turn them down. With the friendship requests I will at least explain my reasoning, but I seldom do that with a group invite. I am in 23-24 groups always and use the other 1-2 slots for temporary needs, so I don't have the slots available to join a group just because I walked into their store and maybe even bought one item.