Some news regarding CopyBot

Strife, if you want to add this to the sticky, please do.

In light of the recent CopyBot issues, the founders of the libSecondLife are making some sweeping changes to the project. Please read John's news post on http://www.libsecondlife.org

One of those changes is that the person who flaunted CB's powers is no longer a contributer to the project.

The other change is that developer access is being restricted to responsible individuals. The average "joe on the street" will no longer be able to add code to the project on a whim. I'm not completely sure yet whether source code will be available as freely as it was. At the moment, the public page that was hosing the source code is no longer accessible; since the project was planning on moving the project's hosting anyway, this is a good opportunity to do so.

The third development is that some developer groups have asked about some sort of liason opportunity. I have forwarded the question to the founders, and I personally feel like it's a good idea. If any chamber of commerce type groups wish to establish a formal relationship with libSecondLife, please add to the thread on the official forums.

In any event, it appears that CB was created and distributed by two specific people. Neither of represents libSecondLife as a whole, and one was never a contributing member of the project.

As moderator of the official forums at www.libsecondlife.com/forums, I invite you to stay in touch if you have concerns. I also invite you to come participate in the forums, but please do so in a constructive manner.

I will continue to monitor this thread, if you have questions or comments, and I check the libSL forums on a daily basis. If you have questions that don't need to be publicly aired, please feel free to PM me here or there.

Thank you for your patience and understanding as we work through this issue. I'm confident that Second Life will come out of this as a better, safer environment, in part due to the contributions of citizens like you.

Well done. Open source projects have always been with the intent of promoting quality and providing solutions not problems and this move by SLLIB is while regrettable in that it must be done in the first place is certainly within keeping of the of open source.

And what about the others that encouraged and laughed about it and knew about it?

Why wasn't this brought to thier attention 6 days ago?/

Thanks and kudos to the more responsible members of libSecondLife, for kicking out the crackers and cleaning house. Definitely several steps in the right direction. I wish you well in regaining the trust of the residents of Second Life. But it will take a LOT of work on your part to get us to trust your group, after this.

Pity it took so long for you to realize you had such vipers in your own bed, so to speak, or that it took external individuals examining the libSecondLife chatroom logs and making them public to expose what was under your very noses, laughing at how much trouble they could cause.

{EDIT} IT APPEARS THIS 'RESPONSIBLE ACTION' FROM LIBSL WAS EITHER FALSE, OR HAS BEEN OVERTHROWN, AS THE SAME INDIVIDUAL SUPPOSEDLY OUSTED FOR TURNING COPYBOT INTO A MALICIOUS IP THIEF'S TOOL NOW APPEARS TO BE IN CHARGE OF LIBSL. I HEREBY RETRACT ANY POSITIVE COMMENTS WITH REGARDS TO LIBSL, UNTIL PROOF THAT THEY REALLY ARE KICKING OUT THE BLACK-HATS IS GIVEN. {/EDIT}

IMHO, it's seems there was a real ownership issue by many people. Someone was proud of what was created and wanted to share it with as many people as possible. People at LL were a bit short-sighted in reviewing it. So, it took several days for the people truly impacted by it to speak up loudly.

When people work in a vacuum, things will suck. Now, that this is out in the open, and open communication is occurring, solutions are being found.

That is probably the reeason that they took this course of action they libSL make interesting reading, have a look at this thread where we are sharing the information in an adult manner, its very enligthening

/327/96/149169/1.html

and please remember they perps can be back in libSL today/tomorrow with an alt as there is no verification process to get an account here in SL and as i said trust has to be earnt and they got a long way now to regain a lot of folks trust again.

Peace

LL doesn't have to approve of whatever they are doing, they just approve of them overall.

How could a group this intelligent to do reverse engineering not know what making this info public could do? They knew it fully is the problem.

Could this group be used to do good? Absolutely. Are they doing it now? No. Making LL aware of exploits, codes, etc. is one thing. Releasing it to the public to show it off is not responsible.

Intelligence != Common Sense.

Note that that statement has now been last edited by the ousted member.

The original copy of that posting i grabbed and pasted here earlier much earlier today here

/327/96/149169/1.html#post1336640

Yet more lies from libsl sheesh what next

PS: the original url i took the cut and paste about the apology from has now mysterious become a 404 Not Found and you want us to believe you that libsl is doing the right thing? i am so glad i took all the post from that url and pasted it into the thread

duplicity from the lib sl honcho?

http://atomw7.googlepages.com/home

the plot thickens

Now that makes interesting reading thanks Lunar

libSL should be removed completely. There will never be enough assurance from anyone that they got rid of EVERYONE responsible until it is no more. Period.

To the good members of libSL: Sorry. Guilty by association. You can thank them for the hatred you are on the receiving end of now, but you cannot blame the rest of us for being pissed off at you guys.

This is a lie.

*Verifies by downloading the CopyBot source code from LibSL project, in case they have finally gotten around to removing it*

Yep. It's a lie. Taking the link off the front page is not the same as removing it from public access.

I personally have no trust in a group that brings us suchj "tools" as godmode hack and CopyBot and then blatently lies about not hosting them.

Well... it appears from what I see on the LibSL sire and on other 3rd party forums that the "ejected" individuall that LibSL's 'leaders' claimed they kicked out is now running LibSL?

Lindens? Maybe you had better take a closer look at what your cage full of pet hackers and crackers are up to, and who is in charge? Sounds like the black hats staged a coup...

no one is leaving, theyll be back on alts

they love:

w-hat/v5 tactics(not surprising being that they have members of those groups amongst their membership and huns and baba are long time something awful/w-hat apologists/defenders/sympathizers/PR flak)

fake apologies

word salad excuses

plausible deniabilty

and on

and on

and on

and philip smiles for another photograph

say cheese

This thread has devolved into name calling.

Locked.