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Warda Kawabata

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01-08-2009 05:37

This proposal can't work for its stated purtpose of comforting children.

It relies on voice/speech recognition, and if there's one thing such programs have in common, it's an assumption that the human using it is consciously trying to speak clearly. This is almost never the case for children who think they are talking to a parent who is used to their usual manner of speech and family idiolect.

Given that it would be quite easy to accidentally elicit a "I'm sorry, I didn't understand what you said" response from the AI, and that too many of those will destroy the illusion with potential serious effects on the child's emotional health, I can't believe the stated purpose is true.

As an interrogation tool, it won't matter if the subject eventually realises it was an AI. In this case, he only has to believe it's a real person for long enough to get the information from him. And if it fails, there's always traditional interrogation methods the military has always used. I'm almost certain that's the real goal.

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Torben Trautman

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01-08-2009 06:51

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

"Daddy, Mommy must have died. She's turned into a ghost! Or a cloud or something. Whaaah!!!"

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"Look Mom, Daddy walks like a duck."

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"Why is Iraq all gray?"

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"Mommy, why are there slight pauses every 9.9 seconds when you talk?"

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"Daddy, why are there flying penises all around you?"

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Ponsonby Low

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01-08-2009 09:21

From: Warda Kawabata

... I can't believe the stated purpose is true.

As an interrogation tool, it won't matter if the subject eventually realises it was an AI. In this case, he only has to believe it's a real person for long enough to get the information from him. And if it fails, there's always traditional interrogation methods the military has always used. I'm almost certain that's the real goal.

I agree. And I can't see how anyone could believe the 'we're spending all this money in order to comfort children' story, frankly.

Meade Paravane

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01-08-2009 09:54

Wired seems to have noticed this, too: http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/01/pentagon-wants.html

From: someone

Now that the Predator drone has convinced the U.S. military of the power of killer robots, the Pentagon has put up a call for a loving, family-oriented artificial intelligence. The Department of Defense is soliciting proposals from small businesses for a computer program that would replicate troops serving abroad, during phone conversations and video conferences with their families. ...

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Dakota Tebaldi

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01-08-2009 12:15

From: Warda Kawabata

As an interrogation tool, it won't matter if the subject eventually realises it was an AI. In this case, he only has to believe it's a real person for long enough to get the information from him. And if it fails, there's always traditional interrogation methods the military has always used. I'm almost certain that's the real goal.

Yes, we must find out what those kids know....lives are at stake!

I would think this technology would be a whole lot less controversial if it had been proposed explicitly as a tool for interrogating prisoners, were that its true purpose. Surely the people proposing it would know that. The way it was actually described (as something like an interactive photograph) has already got people thinking the military is planning to "replace" dead parents with computerized fakes.

Of course, there's plenty else it COULD be used for; but you know, the x-ray machine really -was- invented to look at bones, not to look in people's luggage.

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Warda Kawabata Amityville Horror Join date: 4 Nov 2005 Posts: 1,300	01-08-2009 05:37 This proposal can't work for its stated purtpose of comforting children. It relies on voice/speech recognition, and if there's one thing such programs have in common, it's an assumption that the human using it is consciously trying to speak clearly. This is almost never the case for children who think they are talking to a parent who is used to their usual manner of speech and family idiolect. Given that it would be quite easy to accidentally elicit a "I'm sorry, I didn't understand what you said" response from the AI, and that too many of those will destroy the illusion with potential serious effects on the child's emotional health, I can't believe the stated purpose is true. As an interrogation tool, it won't matter if the subject eventually realises it was an AI. In this case, he only has to believe it's a real person for long enough to get the information from him. And if it fails, there's always traditional interrogation methods the military has always used. I'm almost certain that's the real goal. _____________________ I rent out land on private islands. Message me in-world for details.
Torben Trautman Wish I could be! Join date: 8 Dec 2006 Posts: 136	01-08-2009 06:51 From: SuezanneC Baskerville "Daddy, Mommy must have died. She's turned into a ghost! Or a cloud or something. Whaaah!!!" ==== "Look Mom, Daddy walks like a duck." ==== "Why is Iraq all gray?" ==== "Mommy, why are there slight pauses every 9.9 seconds when you talk?" ==== "Daddy, why are there flying penises all around you?" === LMAO
Ponsonby Low Unregistered User Join date: 21 May 2008 Posts: 1,893	01-08-2009 09:21 From: Warda Kawabata ... I can't believe the stated purpose is true. As an interrogation tool, it won't matter if the subject eventually realises it was an AI. In this case, he only has to believe it's a real person for long enough to get the information from him. And if it fails, there's always traditional interrogation methods the military has always used. I'm almost certain that's the real goal. I agree. And I can't see how anyone could believe the 'we're spending all this money in order to comfort children' story, frankly.
Meade Paravane Hedgehog Join date: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 4,845	01-08-2009 09:54 Wired seems to have noticed this, too: http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/01/pentagon-wants.html From: someone Now that the Predator drone has convinced the U.S. military of the power of killer robots, the Pentagon has put up a call for a loving, family-oriented artificial intelligence. The Department of Defense is soliciting proposals from small businesses for a computer program that would replicate troops serving abroad, during phone conversations and video conferences with their families. ... _____________________ Tired of shouting clubs and lucky chairs? Vote for llParcelSay!!! - Go here: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1224 - If you see "if you were logged in.." on the left, click it and log in - Click the "Vote for it" link on the left
Dakota Tebaldi Voodoo Child Join date: 6 Feb 2008 Posts: 1,873	01-08-2009 12:15 From: Warda Kawabata As an interrogation tool, it won't matter if the subject eventually realises it was an AI. In this case, he only has to believe it's a real person for long enough to get the information from him. And if it fails, there's always traditional interrogation methods the military has always used. I'm almost certain that's the real goal. Yes, we must find out what those kids know....lives are at stake! I would think this technology would be a whole lot less controversial if it had been proposed explicitly as a tool for interrogating prisoners, were that its true purpose. Surely the people proposing it would know that. The way it was actually described (as something like an interactive photograph) has already got people thinking the military is planning to "replace" dead parents with computerized fakes. Of course, there's plenty else it COULD be used for; but you know, the x-ray machine really -was- invented to look at bones, not to look in people's luggage. _____________________ "...Dakota will grow up to be very scary... but in a HOT and desireable kind of way." - 3Ring Binder "I really do think it's a pity he didnt "age" himself to 18." - Jig Chippewa

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