Why owners allowed the spam to kill the public chat rooms?

I loathe excessive gesturing and spam. I get sick of getting group invites every 20 seconds. The arm twisting for tips. Tip the dj, tip the host, tip the dancer tipity tip. I love concerts but hate when people use voice during the show. Why don't they take that to private chat! I do not want to hear your dog barking or Stabler's voice from Law and Order.

I also believe it is the type music the club is playing that encourages gesturbation. When I go to places like Bogarts and Savoy the gesturing is virtually non existent. Some clubs that are techno, rock oriented you will find gesturing to be more prevalent. Additionally, I believe the age of the rl person plays a significant role. When I hang with my 20 year old friends, the gesturing is unbelieveable. They incorporate the gesturing in their regular discussions which I find annoying.

Don't EVEN get me started on that insidious "baby talk" and that laughter.

I have turned on the bubble chat feature so I can immediately identify the person(s) and put them on mute. I hate having to do that because I forget to unmute them. Once I went to Max's concert and found I previously muted half the audience.

Same here. I stick to places like the Avilion Ballroom and similar venues.

Awhile back there was a DJ that my former partner and I enjoyed and went to places he was working. Due to his preference of style and music the clubs were usually the spamless/gestureless types.

Until one night...arrggggghhhh. So, my partner and I started putting anyone who did a spam or irritating (to us) gesture on mute. By the end of his set, I think the only ones NOT on mute were him, his partner and one other person (who also went to clubs because she enjoyed his style.)

this thread reminds me when the punters used to spit at punk concerts.

I've tried to temporally block spammers but it didn't work for me.
Let's say I am in a club with 50 people. I block the 5 or 6 key spammers and then I see no spam anymore but no one is talking anyway because the rest of the users are still suffering the spam and under those conditions they probably find pointless to try to communicate using the general chat room.
Muting could work if all the users in a club were going to block the same key spammers as soon as they enter in the club. That is not going to happen. It's just an utopia.
In the other hand I try to keep my SL ignore list empty.
I don't like to mute people. I don't like to be muted.
We all make mistakes...

I hate the sound gestures with a passion. Especially the ones that shout out the person's name, that they are standing right in front of.... I mean whhhyyyyy ???? The person is aware you are there, because they have been talking to you for a while. Did your companion forget their name? Did they step back and afk from the keyboard and you desperately needed to get their attention? I mean, ok, if you first clap eyes on your friend that evening, you may well be so over-joyed to see them, that you feel the desire to voice their name enthusiastically, that would be fine, but to repeatedly play someone's name to them, only to have them repeat your name with an equally odd pitch and/or tone of voice..... umm...I don't get it.

And do not even get me started on the "Hu-la-la-la I love this tune!" gesture!

The ASCII art pictures, were at first creatively clever, but now its just the same old thing club after club, venue after venue. And now they seem to be getting bigger too. Please stop using them people...it wouldn't be as bad if they were just 3 lines or 4 lines, and appeared only once on the screen every couple of hours. I tend to see them appear in clusters. the same message filling my screen. It's just annoying.

I was recently asked if I wanted to run a club, from scratch, after having been part of a very successful club, that closed when the owner got rl married. The new project never happened, but when it was still being planned, I wrote up some staff guidelines, and ran it past the owner. One of them was to ban/restrict to absolute bare minimum, the use of sound gestures and large ascii art gestures by staff. I was told to leave that out of the guidelines, as it was to have been a relaxed club. I also stated that there was only to be group notices sent once an hour for events. If people then wanted a teleport, even if a LM was attached, then they would be instructed to request one via the host. And that was agreed and kept in the guidelines.

The only sound gesture I really loved, which had no ASCII art attachment that I was aware of, was one daywhen trying to de-stress of some RL worries, I was riding my pixelated pony in Midnight Reflections and heard a wolf howl. I had heard the lone wolf howl there before, but very soon after, someone in the distance played their wolf howl. And then another distant howl echoed in response. I added my own admittedly, and there was a real sense of calmness in the call and answer of echoing wolf howls, with a brief interlude between each. It was not a recorded sound doing all of the howls...I checked it out with the sim owner. And as I rode on, when the calls receeded, there were a couple on a bench, and the human male AV simply said "Greetings fellow wolf *smiles*" It was a wonderful moment, and the only one I can ever say I found that sound gestures were almost appropriately used. Although I do feel for those who may have been annoyed by this 3 minute howling exchange from a few AVs.

I rarely go to clubs anymore. I was really into entering contests for extra cash for awhile, and even worked at a couple of clubs myself, but honestly I feel that two hour contests are far too long for a place like SL. I honestly think an hour would suffice, especially for the employees. I mean I personally got quickly burned out on having to put in two hours worth of work for one hour's worth of tips.
I too got sick of the gesturbating--especially the constant "spanking". It got to the point where--when I went into clubs I would turn the "sound" option off. I also feel that club owners should pay their dancers and host/esses a flat wage of L$X for their shifts rather than having them solicit tips. Feeling pressured to tip all the time really decreased the enjoyment of the club-going experience. I mean I have been to some RL strip joints, and they don't expect their dancers to make ALL their money in tips! Many of us cannot afford to tip heavily--or at all--and it's a shame that we can't just enjoy a venue without feeling pressured to tip.

/me agrees with the last 2 posters, with the exception of the wolf howl. Have heard it way too often in clubs. It usually goes with the ASCII wolf 'art.'

But the only way owners will listen is if people stop going because of all this, and for some reason, people seem to actually like all this spam instead.

I wish if people had to use spam they would at least go out and do some hunts or buy some unusual gestures and spam. Does it have to be the same three things several times a shift?

Hee hee I have gestures from "Will & Grace", Jay & Silent Bob, "Wayne's World", Jeff Dunham (& friends) and Monty Python. I use them rarely, and for a good long while, I didn't use any gestures at all. I completely cleared out my gestures and deleted 99 per cent of them.