LL - Let us count the bots!

It makes a lot of snse to me, if someone wants 80 alts to stand around in a box fudging the traffic stats, make them pay for it.
I don't think LL should allow any more than one free account per person, if you want 4 alts pay for a main account that they are verified to.
The concept of infinate free anomous accounts is just BS and causing all this gaming of resources and rankings.

If Linden Lab is capable of rolling up alts to a Unique Customer Level for it's financial statistics, how hard would it be for them to use that same capablity to only count "traffic" at a Unique Customer Level?

No matter how many manniquins or models or group invite bots you ran as a single individual, you would generate no more "traffic" for a parcel then if you had no bots logged in.

20 bots and you logged onto your parcel for 5 hours? That would only count as 5 hours. All 20 of your alts logged in for 24 hours? That would only be 24 hours of traffic generated for a parcel and not 480 hours.

Then you wouldnt have to get rid of bots or traffic.

As someone who is online during the "graveyard hours" and having watchde the off peak figures over 2 years go from 3000 on line to 30000 while the peak goes from 10,000 to 70,000 I estimate that about 1/3 of those online are bots.
The other thing that also gives it away is that now weekday peaks are 60k and weekends 70k there used to be a much larger gap between the 2.
The allowing of infinate unverified accounts has to stop.

Ahh met him in RL once...put it in...one....two....three....four... Done!

I suggested something like that earlier in the thread already .

I'd take the "rolling up" with a mountain of salt though since it largely depends on how they're going about it. Email would be rather useless for instance, so would RL name on file frmo when you signed up; by RL name from payment information should be accurate although it doesn't take NPIOF alts into account and those always need to be dropped to make any pretense at filtering (filtering by IP would be rendered useless by bots connecting through open proxies).

People would just go back to mass camping if you just leave it at that. During the high days of camping some places had 60+ campers being paid L$3/10 minutes 24/7 so money clearly isn't any kind of deterrant.

In addition to folding accounts together (and not have those you can't identify count for anything) you'd also have to put an upper limit per parcel and per day. I suggested 120 per parcel (2 hours) and 300 per day (5 hours) should be enough for legitimate human traffic.

Camping would still be possible but it wouldn't be predictable in any way since you wouldn't know if 1) the avie even count (could be an alt with the other account logged in), 2) even if they count they might have hit their daily limit and 3) you need a new camper per spot every 2 hours which is more troublesome than it used to be since only "Payment Info" would qualify.

In addition if camping returns under that scenario running mass camping bots will get back in style and the average camping bot would get paid yet contribute no traffic of any kind so bots would just solve the camping problem which makes for good irony .

Yep and the problem I see currently with bots is I suspect although the population appears to be increasing I suspect that is because there are more new bots logging in than real users leaving SL, the dumping of new land to the grid has been pretty slow lately but the sea of purple and yellow plots on the mainland seems to be rising, particuarly the purple which usually means land abandoned by owners.

Yep what about seeing it the fur? Furries are people too
Hmm I might even have to arrange to have Phil AR'd for racial intolerance if he doesn't have any minority group avatars models like Furry/Neko/Vamp/Robots

You answered your own question below.



Dismiss? It doesn't exist. Wake up.

That could well be true. I'd have to think that the number of bots is rising all the time - both in quantities, such as traffic bots, small numbers such as the ones we see mentioned here - group-inviters etc., and models/manequins. The total has to be ever increasing, imo.

I sell furry rugs, if that'll avoid the AR

I agree with Kitty's predictions that without bots, but no restrictions on camping, we would just go back to large numbers of campers who are on the pads 24/7. I still believe that many many of the constant campers are really owner alts anyway....it is hard for me to believe that many biz owners have the money to pay 20-30 campers the fees they would incur 24/7. But if those campers are alts....they essentially act as bots, dont cost the owner a cent, and do all the same things bots do, but with excessive lag on the sim. I really think the answer is NOT to only get rid of bots, but to fix the use of traffic. Bots are really not the issue....

If you look at the economic statistics page, you can see from the PMLF chart that SL has been having the kind of growth over the last 6 months that most RL companies would kill for. If there are fewer real people online than there used to be, they are spending a lot more money. A big portion of the concurrency increase has to be real people. That's the only way to really explain the large increases in every category of Linden earners over the last 6 months. For individual business owners that are seeing a drop in sales, I would guess that it's because of an increase in competition as opposed to a drop in real population.