Which Parcels are requiring age verification?

Just out of interest, I wanted to check out if I could. I've TPd around with an alt to a few *ahem* notorious places that ought to use it, but haven't been asked for it yet. I'm using the most recent RC client on the main grid.

Probably, the owners of these places aren't using the RC client; either that or they're avoiding the chicken-and-egg problem (because they know that whichever adult place is the _last_ to go AV will get all the traffic from the others).

It's voluntary right now. So I imagine no one has volunteered to flag their parcels yet.

I don't believe it's actually working yet. I tried setting a parcel to 'verified only' and then had an unverified alt go there and they had no problem accessing the parcel.

Combine that with the fact that everyone's profile says "Not age-verified" even if they have verified, makes me think that the only thing that they are beta-testing right now is the actual registration process itself.

My guess is, we're probably a rolling restart or two away from having it activated inworld.

-Atashi

my profile doesn't say anything..weird

It only shows verifiction status in the newest release candidate viewer, not the main viewer. Even there, as Atashi pointed out, all accounts say "not age-verified."

It's voluntary, apparently residents are only strongly encouraged to flag parcels.

Now if your business is the adult kind (mine isn't), then you're hardly likely to flag your land, business wise it would be suicide whilst your rivals decide they're not going to bother.

/me saw the same thing last night. Seems they've added all the bits and viewer pieces but they haven't flipped the big "Enforce!" switch yet.

I'd be a lot happier if they had mentioned this in the blog (or more clearly if it's in there and I missed it) and gave us some sense of when they're going to flip the switch..

Prolly some time shortly before the end of working hours on a Friday

This comes from unverified sources, but I've heard that all Canadian parcels will have to be age verified, even in PG areas. Face it chaps, LL just doesn't like Canadians.

Huh? Where did you hear that? Damn, I'll have to go back and look at all those Canadian threads, again...

LOL! They're just jealous.

-Atashi

I don't think they'll flip the actual "Enforce" switch until they feel they've reached a critical volume of people that have verified.

After that they'll flip the switch and things will be quiet for a week or two and then they'll start warning/suspending a few random people to instill doubt and fear to make people paranoid and flag their parcel, driving the verified number higher up still.

Then we'll see the blog post about how verification was a big success and how proud they are of their residents for "voluntarily" verifying and of land owners who flagged their parcel and thank us for making Second Life a safer place for everyone.

Well, I've just done some testing.

If you switch the verified only access on the land (for which you need to use the RC viewer), they an unverified account sees the familar red No Entry ban lines around the parcel under both the RC and released viewers.

If you try to enter under the RC viewer you get a dialog saying you aren't age verified and asking if you wish to go to the web and verify.

If you try to enter under the release viewer you get an error popup saying something like the alerts.xml lacks a agenotverified section.

Like normal ban lines, there's nothing to stop you moving you camera into the parcel.

And finally I've got the answer to a question I've asked many times before - namely how high do the ban lines go - well its 100m like normal ban lines, which leaves some interesting questions if you have mature items in a skybox.

Matthew

LL's made it pretty clear that if you aren't chained to the ground, you need a security system for protecting any sky builds. But I'll bet that all the good scripted security systems will soon have updates that will be able to boot those who are not age verified.

I see no added safety for RL underaged people in all this but if flagging my naughty place as being a naughty place keeps me safe (or even "a bit safer" from RL lawyers, I'll do it..



That's _if_ LL exposes the verified bit to scripters. The blog says that it won't be visible in other people profiles - I take that to mean scripters may not be able to see it either.

There's nothing to that effect in the FAQ or Knowledge based articles mentioned in the blog. All that it says is that you should ban unverified accounts from land containing mature content. If you've done this you have discharged your "moral, social and legal responsibilities". If an unverified account still gets access due to technical flaws in SL, then that is LL's "moral, social and legal responsibilities".

Matthew

Bans by explicit name go to 768 M. (The avatar "Grid Shepherd" is banned from this parcel, for example). All other bans (ban "no payment info provided" go only to 50 M above the terrain. Ergo, if you want to keep someone out of anything that isn't on the ground, you must use a security system.

If the parcel settings allow a parcel to keep you out on the ground, then a security script can, and soon will, do it in the air. They will use LibSL code if they have to , but the service WILL be provided, whether LL likes it or not, because people will demand it.

If you want to keep _everybody_ out of anything that isn't close to the ground, you must use a security system.

Your client will know if *you* age verified or not, it won't (or shouldn't) be able to determine that about anyone else. You won't be able to tell from script, you won't be able to tell from libSL since the information just isn't there about anyone but your own avie. Even seeing someone on an age restricted parcel won't tell you if they're age verified or not since they could just be on the access list, or in the group.

The solution is simple anyway: raise *all* access restrictions up to 768m regardless of what or who they're excluding.

The information is already in the current RC candidate viewer. It's not 'enabled' yet but it appears in the profile beside the payment information. It shows if any avatar is age verified or not.

-Atashi

The KB article still says other residents will not be able to view your age verification status.

One of the two is clearly in need of updating .

The Following has NOT been addressed:

What is the garuntee that this third party will
respect the privacy laws and NOT store he info unless
requested?

Is LL Monitoring this third party? Why should we
entrust our privet info to a third party we know
nothing about?

What about security? how securer is this third party?
Who do we hold accountable if a security breach occurs
at the third party?

What about third party credentials?

I believe we have the Legal right to view those too.

What garuntees do we have against Identity theft?

I refuse to submit any of my privet info to The third
party until you guys address ALL my concerns and
questions regarding this issue.
I do NOT feel safe nor secure releasing my privet info
to a third party I know nothing about.

How much do free accounts have to pay? what about
those of us unable to get a credit card for what ever
reasons or can’t access pay-pal?

Also it’s illegal for an online virtual world to
require a users social security number for any reason.

THere’s not a single piece of ID on that list that I feel I can trust SL with.

whoa. dude. cross-thread postage. not good.

Hey, I finally sent in my first AR to Strife. That cross posting is very out of hand.