Mainland Sim Full: Who Is To Blame?

Anzere would be even better. There's nothing there but the infohub and snowy mountains. It's a lovely view.

It might not help really, but you might be able to get the Linden staff to up the sim user limit. It's and easy change for them to make.

I'd ask for a land trade.

A crowd that size will be a perceived value to somebody. Considering the way land prices have dropped, this could be a real opportunity. Put the land up for sale at a high price, and buy a larger plot somewhere else. With the reduction in estate prices, this could be the perfect time to switch to private land.

What will they think up next?

i need a new store location...... LOLOLOLOL

I moved to Bear in 2005 when the sim came online. There was a telehub that became obsolete. Torley Linden asked us did we want a infohub for new players to rez on the mainland. We, as parcel owners said yes. This inofhub sat there from mid-2006 until mid-2007 with one notecard giver and one free texture giver. New players rezzed and filtered into the sim. In mid-2007 Linden Lab told players to go test voice in Infohubs before it was rolled out across the grid. Now many of these people say that LL told them that they can stand in infohubs and chat all they want. And that is why we now have this new type of SLer in our midst.

Infohubs were never meant to be un-supervised chat zones. The easiest solution is to make the Infohub accessible to avatars under 30 days old only and Mentors.

That is not the fact. LL asked us parcel owners would we want a place for NEW PLAYERS to rez on the mainland - LL did not ask us did we want a un-supervised chat zone in the sim. Why would anyone agree to that?

This statement of yours is not based on fact. The issue is the Infohub being so full of chatters that there is extremely limited access to the sim. This is a documented fact. And one that effects many one-sim infohubs across the grid.
That is a great new Customer Service philososphy. I wonder how it will play-out in the long run.

Which part of this did you not understand?



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Yes,Kitty. When I spoke to the Community Team a few months ago they were so pleased with Infohubs that they were going to put up as many as they could all over the grid. They explained to me the problem would go away because the groups would spread themselves out more. Laughable. After much of my noise the plan changed slightly.
Does anyone in Linden Lab know anything about human nature? Do they even employ anyone with a Public Planning degree. Throwing around terms like "Department of Public Works", "Traffic Metrics" and "Community Development" make for good copy. But at no time has LL presented to us a staff person with any training or experience in these areas.

Here is part of a interview with Jack Linden:



So we deal with these situations where they collect fees for use of server resources while endorsing mass un-wanted loitering on the same server. It all comes down to a case of Breach of Contract that the service povider could easily correct. Make infohubs what they are defined to be: a place for people 30 days or younger. We were asked if we weanted the infohubs under the original definition in 2006. If the definition has now changed we need to be asked again under these new conditions.

I know what an abusive person is and for the longest time now you are abusive to that entire community. You need to stop. Do your business and stop harassing people.

You sound like a broken record. Put your effort into something that will do good and you will have a happier life.

Bear infohub is not constantly full, in fact it generally has about 7 people there and at peak times maybe 15. They are a nice community full of people with all sorts of personalities. We are lucky to have people who like welcoming new residents and you harass them.

I see you have even expanded your business there, so it must not be as hurtful as you claim, if anything this is a troll to get attention for your business,again. *snores*

Welcome hubs had their purpose inthe past. The edge use to be a newbie pathway for a long time until they change that pattern......Then LLABS took the route of .( well the lack of better words......Useful newbie clubs) Which infact failure worse then the ones that existed before......Then commerical island took over and that ended the love story with the crash and burn version of that experiment..........

Infohubs are so much worse than these sims being choked with ugly malls that take hours to rez like the Telehub days. And I have a magical pony named Horace.

I would worry about taking your courses, because your business accumen seems to be to ENRAGE the consumer and not ENGAGE the consumer. A small change that would probably work a lot better, eh?

Isablan when you quote a official definition of infohubs you cqannot edit to make yourself seem right. The entire definition reads:


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The Lindens Define BEAR INFOHUB AS:
The smaller of these would function as an information center for centralized distribution of Linden Lab news and announcements as well as resident content.

FOUR SIM INFOHUBS: The larger type of space would be used as a public gathering space for meetings, events, or general socializing.


One sim infohubs were never designed for mass gathering. It is not possible to have a mass gathering area and collect tier from customers to use the same server comfortably. The Lindens just seem to be stuck on stupid on this issue. They refuse to openly admit that the infohubs are an abandoned project that just sits on the grid prompting abuse reports and tier-payer greif.

Please show me where I edited anything. I posted a link to the full post from Jesse Linden.

Because of this thread I now want to go hangout at the Bear Infohub

Ravenelle built the Bear Infohub in 2006 after the tier-payers agreed to it being there.

Your un-documented statment about the infohub traffic is completely not true - and is well docuemented with the Linden Community Team. These conversations have to be based on facts and not what we want to be the reality.

The greeting/mentoring program has over 3000 members - none of which tell new players that infohubs were placed there for them to gather and chat with no concern about the sim resources.

So, the answer then is to close the Bear Infohub and auction off the land like they did with other failed Infohubs.

laughs nice catch!!!!!!!!I mean nice return!

Me too, actually. At least to see what all the hub-bub is about.

I hope they do, I would love to put a huge glowing hot pink tower there.

*waves* Hi Kristian!

Boy, do I miss that comic. New Mutants was a great book. Too bad Rob Liefield totally destroyed this promising book, creating the kludge that was X-Force.

X-Force gave birth to Cable as I recall. I followed that series for awhile and enjoyed it.