Bizarre account copybotting avatars, clothing and even profiles and groups
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Tarina Sewell
Just Browsing Thank you
Join date: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 2,180
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06-15-2008 10:08
From: Vittorio Beerbaum Anything mentioned here existed by ages... so i would suggest to concentrate on the big news here, and figure out if it really happened how exposed: someone joined a invite-only group. I did my test with packet manipulation, testclient, etc. and i didn't found a way to join a group because it is locked serverside (even faking an accepting message). But it doesn't mean that the possibility doesn't exists because of an exploit that i doesn't know. excuse me for not conforming to where you want this thread to go.
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Viktoria Dovgal
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Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 3,593
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06-15-2008 10:14
From: Tarina Sewell Ahh, I bought a sculpty hat kit at a build edu and I noticed the sculpty image had text all over it. cool good idea (I like my prim built hat better though) Yes, that's a good example of where someone used a watermark to deter screen grabs. It's still susceptible to capture and even laundering, but it does at least make more work for a counterfeiter who wants to get away with things. And that's how lots of real world security works, make your stuff less attractive to steal because other people have easier pickings. ETA: but there is a balance to strike, some things that might make an item less appealing to steal can make it less appealing to buy too. One hair maker whose stuff I used to absolutely love won't see any more business from here because the wigs were changed to no modify with those useless resize scripts that don't take different avatar shapes into account (and I can't shuffle prims to cover my avatar's human ears with the nerfed hair either). All that lost utility, and the no modify trick doesn't prevent copying at all because copying scripts are the hard way to do it.
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Emi Connaught
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Join date: 27 May 2008
Posts: 132
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06-15-2008 15:38
From: Tarina Sewell excuse me for not conforming to where you want this thread to go. Not a matter of where you wish this tread to go. Truth is this technology has been around since SL was formed. Don't like it ? Maybe you should email Microsoft and tell them OpenGL sucks ?
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Viktoria Dovgal
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Join date: 29 Jul 2007
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06-15-2008 16:45
From: Emi Connaught Not a matter of where you wish this tread to go.
Truth is this technology has been around since SL was formed.
Don't like it ?
Maybe you should email Microsoft and tell them OpenGL sucks ? They would probably be happy to agree with you, since OpenGL is an SGI thing and at MS they have their own workalike system. But switching over to Direct3D or whatever they call it this month, or some other graphics API, would make no difference, the textures are intercepted before they even get that far.
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Emi Connaught
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Join date: 27 May 2008
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06-15-2008 17:15
From: Viktoria Dovgal They would probably be happy to agree with you, since OpenGL is an SGI thing and at MS they have their own workalike system. But switching over to Direct3D or whatever they call it this month, or some other graphics API, would make no difference, the textures are intercepted before they even get that far. How the irony is lost !.
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3Ring Binder
always smile
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
Posts: 15,028
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06-15-2008 21:51
From: Emi Connaught How the irony is lost !. i really hate wasted irony, lost on dense people.
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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
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06-16-2008 03:57
From: 3Ring Binder i really hate wasted irony, lost on dense people. I don't know if that was a pop at Vittorio, but if it was, it was stupid. But it takes intelligence to recognise intelligence.
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Rube Flatley
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Join date: 31 Jan 2008
Posts: 16
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Can the copybot do anything to the original?
07-03-2008 16:05
So, if the bot can copy another avatar, does that mean they could potentially change things in that avatar? Like wipe out their inventory or revert them to a default body and skin or whatever?
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Viktoria Dovgal
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Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 3,593
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07-03-2008 16:07
From: Rube Flatley So, if the bot can copy another avatar, does that mean they could potentially change things in that avatar? Like wipe out their inventory or revert them to a default body and skin or whatever? No, nothing like that. Well, you could cause self-inflicted damage, but no worse than you could accomplish with the regular LL viewer =)
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3Ring Binder
always smile
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
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07-03-2008 16:17
From: Phil Deakins I don't know if that was a pop at Vittorio, but if it was, it was stupid. But it takes intelligence to recognise intelligence. sorry. i am just seeing this reply. no, it was a general statement about wasted irony, in general. let me share a favorite Sagan quote with you: “Knowing a great deal is not the same as being smart; intelligence is not information alone but also judgment, the manner in which information is collected and used”
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Viktoria Dovgal
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Join date: 29 Jul 2007
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07-03-2008 16:24
Irony and idiocy can look the same, with all those letters in common, but they are very different things.
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3Ring Binder
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Join date: 8 Mar 2007
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07-03-2008 16:29
what they have in common is, they are usually both a way of life! .oO(or a common denominator, as it were)
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