Linux Vs Windows

Vista is fine.

Older machines---meaning older components and drivers and even new drivers for new hardware was a problem for a while--mainly the video drivers. Some video drivers still have issues. Software apps also have had to play catch up.

Vista is to Xp as Xp was to 2000 Pro, Xp was to 2000Pro as 2000Pro was to NT4.
NT4 was to Win 98 as Win98 was to Win 95. There have always been issues with hardware drivers when new OS's have been introduced.

We are already into Vista Sevice Pack 1 and it is not only fine--but excellent--- when the hardware, drivers and apps are compatible.


With all changes of the OS , hardware upgrades and RAM increases were necessary---just the way it is.

Did the penguin thing on iRC, no desire to w/ SL.

You must have an old or slow machine.

or a very quick dog.

Windows it does everything I want, and I don't have to keep finding stuff that won't run because there's no Linux version.
Xp is pretty good compared to it's predecessors, Vista I worry about.

I've used all 3.

Windows- because really, can you walk into a WalMart & buy stuff for a Mac or Linux? Can you even buy a Mac in WalMart? Can you have an uber-machine & not even look at the hardware requirements? I built a dual core machine with an 8800 GTS for under $700. Customized case too!!

XP Pro- very stable anymore. Vista?- I'm still waiting on it to mature more.

Mac- Easy deal with. Expensive. Works. Stable. Cant build your own, really. Not everything is compatible. I hate being linked to just one company for everything. Then there's the whole "game" side. I mention several dozen games I play regularly (big $$$ money games) and Mac folks are like "Who?" (show me your Crysis benchmarks Mac Users!!!!)
Just like Microsoft, but with a "Go on! Drink the Kool-Aid" attitude rather than "shut up! It works! We say so! Deal with it!!".

Still, I can't say "it sucks". Quite contrary. It's quite quality stuff!

Linux- Stable, free, many variations to choose from. Problem is, trying to get the "computer illiterate" to use it. As fun as Linux is, I can't see "Joe Shmoe" bothering to figure out how to install stuff thru a command line. Majority of computer users are not gonna bother reading manuals or figuring out command line stuff. Hell! I had a friend who's still mystified at using Windows. And after 35 yrs, he's never EVER heard of Linux. The Internet to him & most others is Hotmail, YouTube, MySPace & porn.

They all have good & bad points.

The problem is, most people don't use an OS to its fullest. One has to consider that these people are not looking for high-end PC's and Performance nor playing games or SL. They just want Ebay & Hotmail to work.

Windows, only because all the software development is concentrated in that area. How many times have you read about a Linux or Mac user bitch about client issues not being addressed by LL. It's tough enough to keep up with 1 platform, let alone three, so I avoid all the headaches associated with using Linux or Mac OS. I'm not saying Windows is better, it's not, it's just the best supported platform for SL, and just about everything else for that matter.

Neither Linux nor Mac OS can run DirectX. That is reason enough to not even consider them.

I use Linux on one of my older machines and I prefer it over Windows updating itself every 15 min.

All of my websites are on Red Hat Linux boxes and I seldom have problems. I play SL on a windows machine only because it is the newest machine I own and it has the most upgrades.

"CX"

QFT

Are you listening LL?

Personally, I prefer Windows, as people like your partner and their cutesy names turn me off to Linux (Conversely, I know an ex-linux user that calls it Linsux).

And most of the time, the type that use the term 'winblows' are correct, they get beter performance on Linux and less lag...because they couldn't properly configure a windows system to save their asses. Got a few friends like that, big OS / Linux fanatics, amazed that I have never had a virus or spyware, that my games run so smooth when they see them 'cause theirs never did, etc.

I prefer windows, used Linux and HATE it with a passion, but I am going to have to disagree with you here. Vista, at least the drive acceess portions of it, is a joke at best and there have been reports of this since release.

4gb ram, 3.2ghz processor, 2x 200GB SATA HD's with built-in 8mb cache. Tried to copy 12gb of files from C:\ to D:\

Vista Ultimate no SP -- 37 minutes (I timed it, not trusting the estimate of 41 minutes Vista gave).
Installed SP 1. deleted the files from D:\ and tried again -- 29 minutes (timed again)

Thought I might have some kind of error with the operating system, so Reformatted and reinstalled Vista Ultimate with SP1 -- 28 minutes, timed.

Same hardware, reformatted and back to XP Pro, SP2 -- 7 minutes, timed.


I love vista's features, but there is something SERIOUSLY broken under the hood that results in HUGE decreases in drive access speeds. Also, noticed roughly a 5 FPS increase on SL under XP Pro SP2....I am guessing its due to the end of the stuttering that occured when SL on vista accessed the cache. SO, while I'd KILL to be on vista for the features, I am staying with XP SP2 for performance and my Vista Ultimate CD sits on the shelf wating for Vista SP2 and hoping they correct the drive access issues.

I fail to see the relevance of the question. Between multibooting and free VMWare servers, there's no reason you can't have both.

I use both regularly. I have Cygwin installed on my MS Windows machines because the Microsoft DOS command line interpreter is so awful, and because some Unix-flavor tools (like find) are far superior to anytning on MS Windows. I'll happily use MS Excel (it's always been great), but I only use MS Word under duress, because the rest of the world forces it on me.

I develop web sites on my MS Windows machine using Apache and PHP/Python/Perl, but then deploy them for customers on Linux boxes.

Limiting yourself to one is like limiting yourself to a single natural language. You don't need to be expert in both (I've forgotten most of my German), but a good exposure to both is part of computer literacy.

SL is a open GL game, not Direct X which is why you often see worse performance on a Vista system vs. a similar XP machine.

Vista Dropped all open GL support as Microsoft could not imagine anyone would want to play a open GL game anymore.... or they wanted open GL games to suffer so Dev's only use thier Direct X code to make games.

Here's a good article showing the differences:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xp-vs-vista,1531.html

People would be fine with vista, and not so in love with there beloved XP if microsoft hadn't screwed up time tables thanks to ongoing investigations.... Windows OS's have a 3 year life cycle... they have ever since 95 (not counting small rebuilds) ... 95, 98, XP ... XP had a 6 year life span which made everyone comfortable with it, and unwilling to change. Thank god they are fixing it tho, now that SP3 is out XP has 2 years of support left, and you can't buy it anymore in 2 weeks time. Vista is back on schedual, it's life is shortly over since it's half way into it's 3 year time period with Windows 7.0 schedualed for businesses late next year, and the masses early 2010.

I tend to think it's drivers somewhere ... I just did a format on my computer, and recovering all my music / movies from the old mirror drive took about an hour for 400GB on 500GB sata2 32M cache drives..

Hmmm...all goes right and I can skip Vista totally and just wait for 7.0

Linux dosn't have directx? tell that to the hundreds of thousands of people playing WoW under linux, and having it run faster more smoother then under windows.

It might not be 100% perfect yet, but Linux can do directx thanks to wonderful strides from the transgaming team and the wine teams.

Errm... when you are playing wow on Linux you are useing a Open GL kernal that was included in the game... not Direct X. Its also never been "officaly" supported by Blizzard.

no one said anything about supported... the comment was on no directx in linux, which is false... I don't use linux any longer for my home system, mostly because i love vista, but when i did run linux there was very few games i couldn't run.... as for wow, yeah you can use the opengl version, but I played it using the directx, as did many of the others i know who do... no need to wait on patches and updates sticking with the directx version. Blizzard worked with cedega on getting the directx version to work flawlessly.

Thats what I'm doing!

OMG I'm Smart!

i bought vista and i like boogers

Even though it's a straw poll it's running at about 2 to 1.

I have fun with Computer Tech people when I get replies that they have never used Linux. Usually in their store and to their face. I then call them Windows technicians NOT Computer technicians. I laugh, they don't.

One of the main reasons i started SL is that it ran on linux.