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Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
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10-20-2008 15:37
Faceshields? _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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10-20-2008 16:19
There's been some extraordinarily wishful thinking around the AWG and Open Grid notion for a long time, and some bizarrely blindered ideas about what can and can't scale (assuming the comments really had engineering intent, and weren't just political).
It's merciful of LL to finally reign-in some of the false assumptions. |
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AfroduckFromPC Brim
Registered User
Join date: 18 Apr 2008
Posts: 133
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10-20-2008 17:12
Better to live in a walled garden, than a scorched and barren desert. If they open SL to any and all comers, in a way that allows your avatar with all their attachments and inventory to travel freely, but also to be copied rampantly, what possible incentive will there be for content creators to continue their efforts in SL? Why spend effort making new furry avatars, or new vehicles, or new clothes, or any other products, if you know that your hard work can, and will, be stolen the instant any of your custoners steps outside of that "walled garden"? Stolen, and turned into freebies? Or sold by competitors, who profit from your work and pay back nothing to you? Oh, I dunno... pride, personal challenge, helping others or maybe just the pleasure of creating something with your own hands. Every content creator that's in it for the money could bail out of SL and the metaverse would not die. You may lose a bunch of the social networking crowd that doesn't want to be bothered with the effort but the rest will continue on. People would just start making their own things if nobody else steps up. You could wipe out the economic system in SL and things would continue on, just with a different crowd. People have been making and running web pages, videos, music, games, metaverses and electronic content for half a century for free or even spending money on it (negative income). They do it because they enjoy it, it's fulfilling or for the good of the community as a whole and they're no less important or influential than those who want to profit. |
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Day Oh
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Join date: 3 Feb 2007
Posts: 1,257
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10-20-2008 20:23
People have been making and running web pages, videos, music, games, metaverses and electronic content for half a century for free or even spending money on it (negative income). They do it because they enjoy it, it's fulfilling or for the good of the community as a whole and they're no less important or influential than those who want to profit. truth _____________________
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Nika Talaj
now you see her ...
Join date: 2 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,449
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10-21-2008 09:53
On an interesting related note, I just got this google news alert:... LL's press release on this indicates that more such partnerships are in the works: http://www.lindenlab.com/pressroom/releases/10_20_08 I know I've seen folks from Qwaq in SL (another 3D workspace provider, their own offering based on the open source technology Croquet http://www.opencroquet.org/index.php/Main_Page), and of course this sort of "office park" approach to corporations in SL is akin to both IBM's and SUN's explorations, particularly IBM's. . |
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
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10-21-2008 10:38
... That's provided I never get invited to a corporate meeting. I was famous for leaving these out surreptitiously with the rest of the handouts at every mega-meeting possible: http://www.bullshitbingo.net/cards/bullshit/ Des, I bet you have this one tacked to your wall...  _____________________
It's still My World and My Imagination! So there.
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Wulfric Chevalier
Give me a Fish!!!!
Join date: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 947
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10-21-2008 10:49
"Immersive Workspaces" is being provided via a partnership with Rivers Run Red, a 3D collaboration company. I imagine that you pay RRR when you make use of Immersive Workspaces in SL, and either RRR or the end customer (corporation) pays for SL's sim resources, as usual. LL's press release on this indicates that more such partnerships are in the works: http://www.lindenlab.com/pressroom/releases/10_20_08 I know I've seen folks from Qwaq in SL (another 3D workspace provider, their own offering based on the open source technology Croquet http://www.opencroquet.org/index.php/Main_Page), and of course this sort of "office park" approach to corporations in SL is akin to both IBM's and SUN's explorations, particularly IBM's. . Immersive Workspaces TM now has a sim, just east of the sea link between Heterocetera and the continent to the south. Not open to the public though, unsurprisingly. |
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Justa Lemon
Disgruntled Second Lifer.
Join date: 4 Oct 2008
Posts: 57
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10-21-2008 11:23
Better to live in a walled garden, than a scorched and barren desert. If they open SL to any and all comers, in a way that allows your avatar with all their attachments and inventory to travel freely, but also to be copied rampantly, what possible incentive will there be for content creators to continue their efforts in SL? Why spend effort making new furry avatars, or new vehicles, or new clothes, or any other products, if you know that your hard work can, and will, be stolen the instant any of your custoners steps outside of that "walled garden"? Stolen, and turned into freebies? Or sold by competitors, who profit from your work and pay back nothing to you? How many real-world businesses would last even a week, if they were told they had no recourse to IP theft? As it stands right now, if LL did NOT keep a tight reign on the asset servers, login servers, and the other infrastructure elements that control avatar identity and Inventory asset permissions, the content creators in SL would be royally screwed. Because we would have no recourse to rampant IP theft. The mechanisms simply are not in existance to prevent it, or to prosecute it. I think Linden Lab is doing the right thing, in protecting the IP rights of their residents. At some point, certainly, there will be "other worlds" run on completely independant servers, and the freedom to travel from one to another with all your "stuff". I'd love to be able to do that, safely. But there have to be safeguards. Or else the first person who "steps out the airlock" will decompress the whole ship, killing everyrthing they left behind. Lol the way things are now theres no recourse to ip theft on the grid anyway. What with the process taking forever and costing a small fortune. Not only that but LL's reluctancy to remove things from the grid that have been PROVEN to be stolen. You're kidding yourself. |
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Justa Lemon
Disgruntled Second Lifer.
Join date: 4 Oct 2008
Posts: 57
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10-21-2008 13:59
I should also mention there was a metaverse with virtual worlds before second life was even thought of, and there will be after. So it wouldn't really matter to me much if second life just vanished off the face of the internet.
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