PG definitions incase you missed it...

Part of the new adult, mature and PG definitions has a hidden stinger...

On PG land you may not 'locate nor sell sex beds'.......................

This blows privacy in your own home out the water..and renders your L$4k xcite or sexgen worthless.......

Beware the knock on your PG door might be the new band of jobsworths wanting to check out your furniture for menus....you have been WARNED

Queue her for those wishing to swap their near worthless PG land for mature.....

https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417

I thought that was always the rule on PG regions...

It was and still is. Same goes with most all forms of nudity, "changing rooms", swearing, weapons use.... Shall I go on? (=_=)

Well if it has always been the case most PG occupants are unaware...plus for 18 mnths i ran a sex bed store out of PG land even ticketing LL if that was a problem...and seemingly not...it was a furniture store....

We are talking beds in private homes here....not public displays of orgy proportions....however i will recheck te existing TOS

I know. This is no different than the unspoken 75MPH speed limit on 65MPH highways. All the signs are there, we just choose to ignore them. Suddenly, a marked crackdown shows up in the news and a few people go up in arms about it. (^_^)

Look for current news on San Francisco police targeting loud motorcycles. The mufflers they're using have been illegal for years.. Decades, even. But SFPD decides that this is the month to start enforcing it. The people's reaction; "I never knew it was wrong!" ... Yet, it's been documented the whole time. (=_=)

The rules are more in the CS than the TOS. But, both documents are equally binding. (^_^)y

Well the answer seems to be in the interpretation...maybe when the 'rules' were originally written the authors had no idea how far 'our imagination' would go..because the existing verbage is not product specific...

My guess is in any innocents rental or home on PG there lurks a bed or a cuddles sofa and in many a mall or club (oh yes) is rule breaking content. It has finally taken this to finally force clarification...but where is the policing.

So?

This is always what I understood the rules for PG land to be too. I agree, though, that it seems it has never been enforced.

That's another thing that was made clear: Governance is done by the Lindens, but, reporting is done by the residents. If it's not ARed, it didn't happen. The Gteam workload is too high for them to simply police the grid. (^_^)y

Another notable point is that snooping and being a peeping tom isn't tolerated too well.

It's 110% possible to say: "look, sure, I was in the wrong but the accuser would have had to snoop into a private skybox, evade X, Y and Z and take extreme measures to detect anything..."

Even if you don't know who did it, that kinda thing can stick to anyone who is being too much of a goody two shoes inquisitor.

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Also some private regions have "unwarranted search and seizure" rules, even for estate managers. I don't want residents on my estate poked or scanned without good reason; it's not cool.

If someone reports something to me that is in a private area and they had *no* cause to be snooping, they will have more to worry about than the accused.

It's not tolerated too well by the average person, but Linden Lab have gone to great pains to preserve the right to be a nosey parker, part of their thinking behind these decisions is to protect those who want to cam into every nook and cranny.

Curiousity killed the cat.

...let that be your comfort while you find the money to shell out for extortionist land in Zindra, or pack up your home into small boxes in inventory.

Or they can buy the Mature land they should have bought in the first place.

I doubt Desmond is likely to be picking up and moving anytime soon.

I love how the new PG guidelines say "If you're unsure whether your region is PG or mature, or feel there's some ambiguity as to whether your content and activities are allowed in PG regions, it's probably best to designate your region as Mature."

I can only assume that LL is going to now allow residents of Mainland PG regions to redesignate them as Mature. Sounds great to me. I will get started with the land owner sign-offs in Kuula and Hamnida.

Well, ok, for the specific case of sex bed on PG that may be the case. Though I was actually under the impression that private use has been allowed, officially, and not just from lack of enforcement. But exactly such vagueness is one reason I got mature land; to be sure I did not to step on anybody's toes.
-And my comment goes equally (or more so) for mature-now-suddenly-turned-adult.

You may recall that I was ARed and suspended for (Sexual)ageplay while in a PG event on PG land in front of a crowd of 30 witnesses. If an AR like ~that~ can fly, I don't think LL give a rodent's patootie about snooping and peeping. (>_<

Consider... Camming into a really slick looking castle to see if they have some killer gilded furniture and happening upon someone's CP photo gallery... I remember someone having that exact experience and was completely in the right to AR the place, in my opinion. (=_=)

They did it to Waterhead. =^-^=

I don't remember where I saw it, but once I saw something about *private* sexbeds and whatnot being ok in PG regions, as long as no one would know it was there without going to look for it (like in a skybox).

My sim is marked PG, but I know that at least one person had a sexbed in a skybox at one point in time, I saw it show up in top scripts once. Even though I have no interest in such things, I've told my friends who share the sim with me that they can do what they want as long as I don't have to see it. The sim is marked PG because sometimes we open it to the public (it's usually a private sim) for release parties and such, and the PG rating is meant as a reminder to visitors that they're not allowed to show up with their junk hanging out. Sooo many people see a Mature sim and think that's ok, regardless of the posted rules... -_- I wonder if LL will be policing private sims.

I think it depends who you get, when it comes to AR's. I'd say some Lindens would care very much about do~gooder pests. One, because it makes a lot more pointless work for them and two, because it will anger a lot of reasonable people. How many reading this would put up with being moralist do~gooder's executioner?

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With regard to unlawful search, it might seem like a small point of discussion to some.

But my tiny little discussion point also happens to be the fourth article of the US Constitution.

If any of our online data could be reasonably construed as a nonpublic space, there would be hell to pay for anyone snooping around in it unlawfully if it went before a US court. Even by our service provider. Apartment managers can't poke around your stuff even if you rent from them, for instance.

But second life, game or not, is a privately owned grid. They can just block your access, you have no inherent right to it. The bill of rights has no standing.

They might lose in court, but you would too, if they chose to just not allow you in.

Just unlink the sexgen base from the bed and link it to something else on your bedstand. Most people just click on your bed to see if it pops up a menu but they'd never think to click on a copy of Wuthering Heights sitting on your bedstand.

Or heck you could just make your bed turn invisible or cover it with a large prim when you're not around.

Doesn't quite work that way. If it did, no apartment renter would ever have any rights. But they do.

Just because you are somebody's landlord you can't go through their things any time you want.

Your cable company has no rights to go poking through your data either.

It's the same thing here.

Just hit ctrl & T it will show up then so hideing it wont work.

the only thing is the Fourth Amendment does not apply to private citizens search
only government and local government under certain circumstances..

That's roughly true. But, in theory, your only "private" space in SL is your inventory. Once it's rezzed, it's practically treated as public presentation by LL. I'm not saying I like it, just that it ~is~ that way. (>_<

I've personally lost a couple friends to full SL terminations as result of snoopy AR vigilantes. Snooping or not. Making up the story or not. If the AR is convincing enough, LL will react swiftly and often summarily. Then it's left up to the reported person to prove themselves otherwise. Which is a much more time consuming task filled with many hoops and hurdles. (T_T)

If you ever wonder why the term "witch hunt" gets used.... (>_<