Avatars Leap from SL to IBM Opensims

Interesting point--I hadn't been thinking in terms of the sim limits defining TPs, but that makes sense, of course.

Still, though... I say bring it on, I think it will be far better than the sum of its parts. Then again, I'm also still waiting for my neural jack, flying car, and robot maid... well, this seems more likely, at least, than any of those (in my lifetime). ^^

When I worked at the Nova Albion News, before the Erase, there were rumors that some in the scientific community were experimenting with teleportation. Not just locally either. Grandma Thetan was able to confirm that the experiments were being conducted between worlds. Here is an excerpt from a letter I wrote quite a few years ago that mentions it:



I had posted the entire letter back in 2005 in this forum thread:
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Some at the paper had speculated that the instabilities leading up to the Erase had been caused by those experiments, though they were never able to prove it and, as a result, it was never reported. Grandma Thetan has told me that such an effect was within the realm of possibility, but that she was not directly involved with the research and was unaware of any specific information regarding those experiments.

With all my heart I respectfully ask Linden Lab to be extremely careful with this research – to go slow and to be completely thorough in evaluating all possible outcomes concerning this new application of their teleportation technology. Not just how it affects those using it, but how opening up such conduits might affect our world. I don't want to ever go through what we went through before.

Valdora Grayson

Which brings me back to some questions I asked in another thread and never got a answer to:

What happens when you crash ??? Do you die ??? Or do you just hang there forever unable to move or communicate ???

arrrrrrgggggg !!!!!

LL announcement says this happened today (in July) - why then does Torley's video clearly show them using 1.20RC9 which was replaced by RC10 on 12th June?

Hmm... sounds like some sort of cover up to me. Wasn't there a previous successful attempt at grid-crossing not that long ago? I'll see what I can dig up.

You can't really infer much from those numbers. The "main" beta grid viewer is still based on RC6.

That's one of the things that need ironing out, jumping from SL to an Opensim causes a flux in the time continum thingy mag-jig.

"Scientists now refer to time as the Space -Time continum. Space and Time are interelated not independant. Time is relative, space-time is absolute..."

See post #27

Oh dear... I will see if I can find that thread you are referring to and reply there. Best to keep this one on the topic at hand.

Valdora Grayson

I would have to agree with this. It's very disorienting traveling back and forth between Earth and the Second Life Grid, what with the time flow difference and all.

Yes, this is what I was thinking of. Both the first example you cited and this second attempt, made by IBM and Linden Lab, were done from Linden Lab test grids... not the main Second Life grid. Was the event reported by Zha in that post the very first attempt at a crossover? From what I've read so far it sounds like Layla Linden, Tess Linden and Zha were the first to make it from a Linden Lab test grid to a non-Linden server on a separate grid. If so, Hamilton should correct his claim about this latest jump, done by the Lab and IBM, as being the ""first."

p.s. These are just the first crossovers that have been publicized. Who knows what sort of classified activity has been going on behind the scenes. SJ

p.s.s. Salazar, Salazar, Salazar... always do your research before opening your big mouth. It seems Zha works with/for IBM and is involved with running the IBM's grid. It was pointed out that Zha appears in the new video footage also. Perhaps these jumps are just different perspectives on the same event or, at the very least, related in some way.

wow, i mean, just...wow. i was very excited to se this, it honestly should have been the secret super special announcment at SL5B, at least it would have made more sense to me.

At the moment this is still not usefull to me but give it a few years and this will be huge IMO. once assests can be transfered across and not just ruthed avatars things will move really quickly. can't wait to see what comes of this.

-Crunch

I think that the term 'teleported' needs to be defined here, before LL/IBM can make such a claim.

No assets accompanied the avatar on this 'teleport'. Some months ago I used a facility in Opensim to teleport to SL. However, what really happened was that I was logged out of my opensim, then the SL viewer was launched, with my login details already filled in (via an option in Opensim), and I ended up in SL. Was this 'teleporting'? I don't think so, but if it was then teleporting from SL to OpenSim and vice versa has been going on for many months.

The only 'true' teleporting, to my mind, is when you arrive with all your assets (inventory) at the new destination available to you, as at your origin. The IBM/LL test was definitely NOT this at all.

So, just how did they define this 'teleporting'? They did not explain, so, for me, it is a spurious claim.

Front

Well, assuming one actually owned the assets on both grids. And even if there were already a way to detect that the account had ownership of assets on both grids (equivalently, that the assets were licensed with grid-transferable permissions), there's still just a subset of asset types that actually do anything on OpenSim, so I'm not sure whether one could tell if they were intact or not.