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Alexander Harbrough
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04-20-2009 22:25
From: Sylvia Trilling
“All of the defendants that sell virtual weaponry like plaintiff’s real ones, under the mark Taser for use in the Second Life programs and grids, also sell adult-only explicit images and scenes” and drugs, according to the complaint.

DRUGS?!?!? All the defendants sell drugs? Huh?


Noticed that too.. personally I think the plaintiffs are on drugs... I can understand the concept of copyright infringement here (although I agree that 'taser' has become pretty much common use as a word, so they might have lost that right anyway), but what drugs is LL supposedly selling?
Kenbro Utu
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04-20-2009 22:30
To set the record straight, it was a reality show about cops called Armed and Famous that first brought up the sexual side of tasers, it sparked some controversy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UncMrAt5gE4
eku Zhong
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04-21-2009 01:57
From: Milla Janick
I'm betting the Taser guys really don't want to know what people use virtual Tasers for.

well.........
in japan the only ppl who sell tasers are adult shops or online stores that sell sex stuff and date rape drugs.
they are not considered to be self defence items.

sorry i am not joking.
Dekka Raymaker
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04-21-2009 02:21
this is simple, if I was the creator i would just apologise for my stupid typo, ohhh I typed Taser, sorry it should be Teaser!
Tegg Bode
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04-21-2009 04:03
Quick rename them to "tazers"
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04-21-2009 05:40
From: Nika Talaj
Very stimulating conversation!


This thread is so full of energy …. Its so electrifying!!!!
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Fenix Eldritch
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04-21-2009 06:42
I'm overpowered by the constant battery of puns.
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04-21-2009 07:40
Extra Lithium for all!!
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Desmond Shang
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04-21-2009 08:05
From: Kelli May
Blame Desmond for all the puns; they're his volt.


Oh, I stopped just short of generating any comedic undercurrents in this thread! That would be stunningly inappropriate don't you think?

Just be glad you aren't on Caledon group chat, we can keep this up for an hour or two sometimes... and often do...
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Alexander Harbrough
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04-21-2009 08:14
From: Desmond Shang
Oh, I stopped just short of generating any comedic undercurrents in this thread! That would be stunningly inappropriate don't you think?

Just be glad you aren't on Caledon group chat, we can keep this up for an hour or two sometimes... and often do...


You keep going and going and going and going...

Pesky bunnies!
Tegg Bode
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04-21-2009 08:34
Ohm, I thought I might just dart in to shoot off a couple of lines and see Watts happening, the Capacitance of this thread is amazing considering previous resistance.It will keep generating till it Hertz.
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Alexander Harbrough
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04-21-2009 08:44
Someone should write a 'why won't this thread di(e) ode. Maybe relay that to some skilled transformer of ideas and rectify this into direct action?

Someone with a magnetic personality the power to act, and not coiled in a corner?
Desmond Shang
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04-21-2009 08:50
People are posting with high frequency... and so far I see no impedance by anyone.
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04-21-2009 09:53
From: Desmond Shang
People are posting with high frequency... and so far I see no impedance by anyone.


They re-fuse to stop! *ow*
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04-21-2009 10:00
/me notes that she has a Resident Geek well grounded in Electrical Pun Theory, and decides to get a piezo this ACtion. Is there a conductor who will pun-ch my ticket for the ride? Did I say "ride"? This must be a traveling wave!.

While we're propagating, then, I'll generate a few bon mohs. But I'll leave it to the gentleman from Caledon to rectify any errors and bridge any gaps.

Watts that you say? I should be confined in a Faraday cage? But it's not even Wednesday yet! Oh...your mother is reading this and getting tired of it? That's too bad, I wouldn't want to see your motherboard.

Anode that I shouldn't have posted this drivel. I'll wave and sine off. Remember, I had the best of antenna-chens.
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04-21-2009 10:03
Apologies if anyone has already said it.

"Don't taze me, bro!"
Desmond Shang
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04-21-2009 11:12
From: Lindal Kidd
/me notes that she has a Resident Geek well grounded in Electrical Pun Theory, and decides to get a piezo this ACtion. Is there a conductor who will pun-ch my ticket for the ride? Did I say "ride"? This must be a traveling wave!.

While we're propagating, then, I'll generate a few bon mohs. But I'll leave it to the gentleman from Caledon to rectify any errors and bridge any gaps.

Watts that you say? I should be confined in a Faraday cage? But it's not even Wednesday yet! Oh...your mother is reading this and getting tired of it? That's too bad, I wouldn't want to see your motherboard.

Anode that I shouldn't have posted this drivel. I'll wave and sine off. Remember, I had the best of antenna-chens.


This is just a little spark compared to what could happen!

Just imagine if anyone from this company sued:

http://www.hosexpress.com/bandit/hosenipples.htm

That would have been punned from here to the next century...
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Darien Caldwell
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04-21-2009 11:49
More than likely the bringing up about 'sex and porn' is an attempt by the lawyers into shaming LL into going for an out of court settlement, rather than having it go to trial and having all this 'naughty sex stuff' come to the forefront during it. It's a often used legal tactic. However at this point I'm not sure if LL would really care. What's one more blurb about sex in SL at this point. If it does go to trial, I think LL does stand to lose solely on the basis that such content existed and wasn't removed. The 'sex and porn' part is immaterial.
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04-21-2009 11:55
They will feel really dumb when they realize LL sells nothing except hosting for 3D chat rooms.
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04-21-2009 12:31
It's all very silly but there are lots of clever lawyers about and there's a growing industry of looking for things to sue people over. But its sooooo silly!

I wouldn't blame LL at all if they get their lawyers to look for something to counter-sue this Taser organisation over.
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04-21-2009 12:31
I googled around ('oops did I just use a trademark?') and found a link with all the names of the defendants:

http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuit.asp?id=46029

It's pretty amusing because some of the names have already left Linden Lab, and they are treating XStreet as a seperate entity when it now in fact is owned by LL. Seems they just decided to name anyone and everyone even remotely possibly responsible, which is wise as it's common for cases to have merit but be dismissed because the wrong party was named.

Darien Caldwell is not a laywer, and nothing in my posts should be construed as legal advice, they are simply my opinions. Always consult a licensed lawyer when seeking legal advice.
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04-21-2009 16:26
Resistance is futile to the power of wattorneys. /me logs off now.
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04-21-2009 17:27
From: Darien Caldwell
It's pretty amusing because some of the names have already left Linden Lab, and they are treating XStreet as a seperate entity when it now in fact is owned by LL.
That's what I call one of those irony filings. But what about Cath and Ann, the O'Dray sisters? Will the Lindens be Leyden low by all this? Surely not, if M at the Helmholtz on firmly enough.
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04-22-2009 07:02
From: Tegg Bode
Quick rename them to "tazers"


That won't help since it's foneticaly the same prenounced.

Trademarks of product/brandnames are also phonetically registered in most cases. besides the typograhical logo's, colorschemes, image based logo's. and in case of products/services the workings/functions/usabilities etc. In this case the electric "bullet" mechanism and such in relation to the shape of the product.
If they want to have a total block of the function/workings used by other producers, then they should have patent it.

But, the main thing is: if two companies use the same product/brandname, it's allowed to both have them register it as trademark, IF and ONLY IF, they are NOT in the same branche (competition) active.

E.g. SUN (tm) (producer of cleaning goods) and SUN (tm) (builder of server technologies and software)
Both use the same name, but are not in conflict, so it's approved.

Anyway, ontopic:

If the products inworld are using the same logo as the real brand, and the models are similar in shape/color/function as the real product, then they are against the trademark laws applied to the real firm. Meaning, the creator of the clone product is in debit.
In this case it's mainly the person behind the avatar, but since LindenLab(tm) exploites the SL platform on which this product is usable and puchage-able, their the first to write. Taser International (tm) has no direkt access to the persons RL data, associated with the avatar responsible for putting this clone product on the virtual world.
All LindenLab(tm) can do is forward the lawsuit to the person behind the avatar, and block the avatar direktly and remove the contents on which this lawsuit is based.
If LindenLab(tm) chooses to protect this avatars RL identity, then their also guilty in not cooperating in a lawsuit issue.

edit: it also depends what global coverage the trademark is based. (worldwide or just America (southern/mexico/usa/canada/greenland) and/or EMEA, and/or asia.
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Lets file this in my 'wtf' folder
04-22-2009 23:54
Not sure what suit working for Taser International greenlighted this legal action, but they need to re-evaluate their attachment to reality. And anytime I see a weapons firm complaining about pornography, pfffffft.
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