Age Verification
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Aziza Moleno
Registered User
Join date: 13 Mar 2009
Posts: 10
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03-27-2009 17:07
Hi,
so I was wondering about some points
a) will the data be directly transmitted to that other company or will LL get ahold of it too? b) I live in Germany and I was wondering what difference between "Personalausweis" (ID card) and "Ausweisnummer" (ID number) would be. Since the only logical way for "Personalausweis" to be verified seems to be its number i'm a bit confused c) is there a way to use a credit-card or something for age verification?
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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03-27-2009 17:08
Credit card yes, payment info on file apparently verifies you.
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Viktoria Dovgal
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Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 3,593
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03-27-2009 17:11
Has the payment info thing now been enabled for the old parcel-level system they added last year, or does that one still require the separate verification step?
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Salvador Nakamura
http://www.sl-index.com
Join date: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 557
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03-27-2009 17:42
if i remember correctly they will ask for socialsecurity or passport number ? From: Ciaran Laval Credit card yes, payment info on file apparently verifies you. on your account page you will find a link "age verification", pretty sure thats gonna be it. https://secure-web2.secondlife.com/account/verification.php .
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
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03-27-2009 17:53
From: Viktoria Dovgal Has the payment info thing now been enabled for the old parcel-level system they added last year, or does that one still require the separate verification step? Nothing new has been enabled, no. The need to scrap how they flagged parcels and sims before and use a new "Adult Content Approval required" flag. At least, I PRAY they don't just say the way to "Flag as adult" is just "Check both the "Age verify required" and "Payment info required" boxes, because that does NOT work!
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Horny Binder
Registered User
Join date: 15 May 2007
Posts: 57
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03-27-2009 20:11
I am in Germany to and used my "Personalausweis" worked fine...
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Aziza Moleno
Registered User
Join date: 13 Mar 2009
Posts: 10
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03-28-2009 02:55
From: Horny Binder I am in Germany to and used my "Personalausweis" worked fine... Hm what did you input? the whole Personalausweisnummer (id card number)? ^^
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MortVent Charron
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Join date: 21 Sep 2007
Posts: 1,942
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03-28-2009 04:49
From: Ceera Murakami Nothing new has been enabled, no. The need to scrap how they flagged parcels and sims before and use a new "Adult Content Approval required" flag.
At least, I PRAY they don't just say the way to "Flag as adult" is just "Check both the "Age verify required" and "Payment info required" boxes, because that does NOT work! age verification online don't work period. no way to do a user verification, only data given verification So George can use Cindy's data to verify as an adult
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Boy Lane
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Join date: 8 May 2007
Posts: 690
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03-28-2009 05:01
I age verified a while back, and it worked flawlessly in a fraction of a second. I don't really know how they did this, a credit card transaction takes longer. But it worked and it did no harm  . That's in Asia, far away from anything "US".
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June Oh
Remember I'm a Blonde.
Join date: 20 Feb 2007
Posts: 383
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03-28-2009 05:21
How do we know if people we meet in SL are verified as over 18? In fact can we tell if we ourselves are? If we arn't, but I think I am, how we test? Do people who are not verified get excluded in Adult areas? June
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Aeslyn Dae
over and out
Join date: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 453
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03-28-2009 05:21
Goodness only knows who our data is being transmitted to. I was reading this on BBC site the other day: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7967648.stmJust remember in these debates around age verification that the more liberally we spread personal ID info around the internet, the more can be collected and used in dubious ways we may know nothing about. -- Aes
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
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03-28-2009 05:50
From: June Oh How do we know if people we meet in SL are verified as over 18? In fact can we tell if we ourselves are? If we arn't, but I think I am, how we test? Do people who are not verified get excluded in Adult areas? June At the moment, the ONLY way a Resident can tell if another Resident is Age Verified via Aristotle is to set up a parcel on the ground as "age verification required", and insist that they walk into that space within 50 M of the ground. And if you can see them do that then MAYBE they are age verified, (likely) or MAYBE the system just glitched and let them in anyway (Proven to be possible) or MAYBE they are using some sort of animation override that displaces them from their actual position, so they *appear* to be there, but are actually one sim East of that location (There are combat attachments that do this). I'm sorry, but an age verification ID that the bouncer at the door of the bar is not permitted to look at is worthless...
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
Posts: 11,319
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03-28-2009 12:07
From: Ceera Murakami At the moment, the ONLY way a Resident can tell if another Resident is Age Verified via Aristotle is to set up a parcel on the ground as "age verification required", and insist that they walk into that space within 50 M of the ground. And if you can see them do that then MAYBE they are age verified, (likely) or MAYBE the system just glitched and let them in anyway (Proven to be possible) or MAYBE they are using some sort of animation override that displaces them from their actual position, so they *appear* to be there, but are actually one sim East of that location (There are combat attachments that do this). And if they cannot get into that parcel, maybe they have not age verified and maybe they have successfullly age verified. I am verified, as are a couple of my alts - one of us get get into some adult parcels and not others, one of us can into all adult flagged parcels, and the other one cannot get to any adult parcel.
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Warda Kawabata
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Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 1,300
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03-28-2009 15:21
I know of at least one avatar that is age-verified using data found in a standard schoolbook used for teaching a foreign language. The coursebook in question has an image of an ID card with (what I sincerely hope is) dummy data. That dummy data is known to pass the Aristotle verification tests.
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Alyx Sands
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Join date: 17 Feb 2007
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03-28-2009 17:53
From: Horny Binder I am in Germany to and used my "Personalausweis" worked fine... Me too. You just need the number.
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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03-28-2009 17:55
All you need these days is PIOF. No need to worry about social security numbers, driving licence, passport yadda yadda yadda.
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XSpidey Defiant
Mr.Defiant
Join date: 30 Dec 2006
Posts: 8
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huh?
03-28-2009 18:03
From: Ciaran Laval All you need these days is PIOF. No need to worry about social security numbers, driving licence, passport yadda yadda yadda. PIOF? not all of us are smart lol please show what the letter means lol
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Waterstar Eilde
Registered User
Join date: 12 May 2007
Posts: 404
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03-28-2009 19:29
From: XSpidey Defiant PIOF? not all of us are smart lol please show what the letter means lol Payment Information On File 
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Nae Mayo
Registered User
Join date: 29 Apr 2007
Posts: 228
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03-29-2009 01:03
From: Boy Lane I age verified a while back, and it worked flawlessly in a fraction of a second. I don't really know how they did this, a credit card transaction takes longer. But it worked and it did no harm  . That's in Asia, far away from anything "US". I'm in Asia too but the system don't work for me. The postal code only has 5 digit, I need 6. Anyway, I did not send my RL info to LL as I don't feel comfortable letting them keep hardcopy of my identity. Besides, this current age verification system is beta. Who knows u might need to verify again when they introduce a new age verification system.
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Abigail Merlin
Child av on the lose
Join date: 25 Mar 2007
Posts: 777
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03-29-2009 03:09
the current system is still broken for me, I tried both my soial seurety number (burger service nummer in dutch) and my passport number but nothing works, offcourse if any company has that data without my permision they are breaking the dutch privatie laws and might find themselfs in trouble with the european court in brusles.
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Talon Brown
Slacker Punk
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 352
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03-29-2009 05:31
How is Payment Info on File supposed to help? I've had payment info on file for years and I'm still not adult verified as demonstrated by the fact that I am not allowed on a neighbor's parcel because they have set it to Adult Verified only. (I have no idea why, it's practically a vacant lot.) I tried to verify with the last 4 digits of my SSN but it failed...which is quite odd as all the information they asked for was correct and has been so for over 2 decades. 
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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03-29-2009 05:33
Talon many people have reported that the adult flag does not work, even for people who are age verified. I'd imagine LL know this otherwise that would have been their first port of call regarding the new policy.
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Talon Brown
Slacker Punk
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 352
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03-29-2009 05:39
I was aware of issues with age verification inworld, but I thought if one were age verified it would show up on your account summary page? No such indicator is on mine hence the confusion.
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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03-29-2009 05:43
From: Talon Brown I was aware of issues with age verification inworld, but I thought if one were age verified it would show up on your account summary page? No such indicator is on mine hence the confusion. Ah with you, LL are saying that PIOF will in the future in combination with the adult continent mean you're verified but they haven't yet sorted that part out. I don't know if they'll actually mark your account as age verified in that fashion, they haven't mentioned that part.
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Lord Sullivan
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Join date: 15 Dec 2005
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03-29-2009 05:51
From: Abigail Merlin the current system is still broken for me, I tried both my soial seurety number (burger service nummer in dutch) and my passport number but nothing works, offcourse if any company has that data without my permision they are breaking the dutch privatie laws and might find themselfs in trouble with the european court in brusles. My wife is Dutch and had no problems verifying with her passport number. and as you gave the information no Dutch laws have been broken  In fact please point me to the reference that says it is against the law as i'm dammed if i can find it 
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