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Crighton Johin

Frell Me Dead

Join date: 26 Feb 2007

Posts: 555

07-11-2008 10:40

From: Oryx Tempel

AA blames God for alcoholism. At least in this SL program, you have only to blame yourself.

Good Lord....where did you come up with that one? We blame no one, at least not those of us who understand our problem. I am responsible for my actions and for recovering.

Now, there may be AAs out there who blame God, just as there are cancer patients who blame God and sports stars who injure their knee who blame God. That's a human trait, not a trait of AA.

Ann Launay

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Join date: 8 Aug 2006

Posts: 7,893

07-11-2008 11:15

From: Crighton Johin

.

This is entirely irrelevant to the thread, but I miss Farscape every time I see you post.

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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

Aebleskiver Thibedeau

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Join date: 6 Feb 2008

Posts: 351

07-11-2008 11:41

From: Crighton Johin

I am responsible for my actions and for recovering.

Yes. We are each responsible for our own actions and our own recovery.

Thank you for your cogent description of Alcoholics Anonymous, Crighton. There is so much misunderstanding about the program in the public, it is refreshing to see it portrayed accurately here. Thank you again.

Crighton Johin

Frell Me Dead

Join date: 26 Feb 2007

Posts: 555

07-11-2008 12:14

From: Ann Launay

This is entirely irrelevant to the thread, but I miss Farscape every time I see you post.

Yes, and I'm sorry for that. My first post was an answer, somewhat rambling, to the OPs question. Basically, that SL can be used as an additional tool in recovery, and I was using my own case as an example, as well as others in AA. The last two posts were in answer to what I felt was inaccurate information given regarding AA. I can be somewhat protective of something that saved my life, and I knew I was kinda hijacking.

As an additional wandering off course, can I suggest the Farscape DVDs? I'm watching Season Two again...lol. Love that show!

And everytime I see you post I want to go pet my kitty.

Qie Niangao

Coin-operated

Join date: 24 May 2006

Posts: 7,138

07-11-2008 12:54

From: Crighton Johin

Yes, and I'm sorry for that.

Just in case there could be any confusion, I'm 100% certain that Ann was not saying that any of the AA posts were anything but on-point; but rather that the Farscape reference introduced in her post was an off-topic aside.

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Trout Recreant

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Join date: 24 Jul 2007

Posts: 4,873

07-11-2008 12:58

I thought Crighton's post were squarely on point and brought a whole new perspective to the thread. I agree with Qie. I think Ann meant her Farscape post was off-topic. This has been a great discussion.

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Ann Launay

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Join date: 8 Aug 2006

Posts: 7,893

07-11-2008 13:10

Yes, I meant I was being off-topic. lol

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From: someone

I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

Crighton Johin

Frell Me Dead

Join date: 26 Feb 2007

Posts: 555

07-11-2008 13:13

From: Ann Launay

Yes, I meant I was being off-topic. lol

Well then.....lol.

I'm going upstairs to pet my kitty again.

Nika Talaj

now you see her ...

Join date: 2 Jan 2007

Posts: 5,449

07-11-2008 15:45

Be aware that the SL portion of this program is only a small part of what this business (Accelerated Recovery, (http://www.iwanttostopnow.com/index.cfm) has in their arsenal.

From: someone

Accelerated Recovery was the first company in the nation to implement the COMBINED Recovery Protocol ™ which combines pharmacology, medical management, focused therapy utilizing SageTalk ™ and wellness management to ensure your success. Confirmed to be the most effective type of treatment for alcohol addiction by one of the largest studies ever conducted by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, Accelerated’s COMBINED Recovery Protocol ™ will enable results not available from institutional recovery programs.

I think SL could be very valuable as part of a multipronged treatment program. As the sole form of therapy, I think it could be valuable in the initial phases. But, as the recovering addict builds skills to help them re-integrate into life, it will be important not to let SL become a crutch. I would hope that Dr. Stone would not have embarked on this study without having a plan to deal with SL's being an addictive form of escapism for some clients.

Ceka Cianci

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07-11-2008 16:41

i'd rather see this drawing attention than sex scandals

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Crighton Johin Frell Me Dead Join date: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 555	07-11-2008 10:40 From: Oryx Tempel AA blames God for alcoholism. At least in this SL program, you have only to blame yourself. Good Lord....where did you come up with that one? We blame no one, at least not those of us who understand our problem. I am responsible for my actions and for recovering. Now, there may be AAs out there who blame God, just as there are cancer patients who blame God and sports stars who injure their knee who blame God. That's a human trait, not a trait of AA.
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	07-11-2008 11:15 From: Crighton Johin . This is entirely irrelevant to the thread, but I miss Farscape every time I see you post. _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Aebleskiver Thibedeau Sapiosexual Join date: 6 Feb 2008 Posts: 351	07-11-2008 11:41 From: Crighton Johin I am responsible for my actions and for recovering. Yes. We are each responsible for our own actions and our own recovery. Thank you for your cogent description of Alcoholics Anonymous, Crighton. There is so much misunderstanding about the program in the public, it is refreshing to see it portrayed accurately here. Thank you again.
Crighton Johin Frell Me Dead Join date: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 555	07-11-2008 12:14 From: Ann Launay This is entirely irrelevant to the thread, but I miss Farscape every time I see you post. Yes, and I'm sorry for that. My first post was an answer, somewhat rambling, to the OPs question. Basically, that SL can be used as an additional tool in recovery, and I was using my own case as an example, as well as others in AA. The last two posts were in answer to what I felt was inaccurate information given regarding AA. I can be somewhat protective of something that saved my life, and I knew I was kinda hijacking. As an additional wandering off course, can I suggest the Farscape DVDs? I'm watching Season Two again...lol. Love that show! And everytime I see you post I want to go pet my kitty.
Qie Niangao Coin-operated Join date: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7,138	07-11-2008 12:54 From: Crighton Johin Yes, and I'm sorry for that. Just in case there could be any confusion, I'm 100% certain that Ann was not saying that any of the AA posts were anything but on-point; but rather that the Farscape reference introduced in her post was an off-topic aside. _____________________ Archived for Your Protection
Trout Recreant Public Enemy No. 1 Join date: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 4,873	07-11-2008 12:58 I thought Crighton's post were squarely on point and brought a whole new perspective to the thread. I agree with Qie. I think Ann meant her Farscape post was off-topic. This has been a great discussion. _____________________ From: Jerboa Haystack A Trout Rating (tm) is something to cherish. To flaunt and be proud of. It is something all women should aspire to obtain!
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	07-11-2008 13:10 Yes, I meant I was being off-topic. lol _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Crighton Johin Frell Me Dead Join date: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 555	07-11-2008 13:13 From: Ann Launay Yes, I meant I was being off-topic. lol Well then.....lol. I'm going upstairs to pet my kitty again.
Nika Talaj now you see her ... Join date: 2 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,449	07-11-2008 15:45 Be aware that the SL portion of this program is only a small part of what this business (Accelerated Recovery, (http://www.iwanttostopnow.com/index.cfm) has in their arsenal. From: someone Accelerated Recovery was the first company in the nation to implement the COMBINED Recovery Protocol ™ which combines pharmacology, medical management, focused therapy utilizing SageTalk ™ and wellness management to ensure your success. Confirmed to be the most effective type of treatment for alcohol addiction by one of the largest studies ever conducted by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, Accelerated’s COMBINED Recovery Protocol ™ will enable results not available from institutional recovery programs. I think SL could be very valuable as part of a multipronged treatment program. As the sole form of therapy, I think it could be valuable in the initial phases. But, as the recovering addict builds skills to help them re-integrate into life, it will be important not to let SL become a crutch. I would hope that Dr. Stone would not have embarked on this study without having a plan to deal with SL's being an addictive form of escapism for some clients.
Ceka Cianci SuperPremiumExcaliburAcc# Join date: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 4,489	07-11-2008 16:41 i'd rather see this drawing attention than sex scandals _____________________ Free Your Mind http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceka_cianci/

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