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06-17-2009 09:59
From: Pserendipity Daniels
"Better late than never".

Pep (You wouldn't want to look that stupid yet again would you?)

PS Or is "Better never than late" more apropos?


Oh Pep, I'm tired and you have a headache. Let's take a rain check for another day?
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Trixxie Nitely
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06-17-2009 10:04
I take offense that u can search gay and lesbian but you cant search submissive or bdsm....not that I think the others should go on the list...but why is my choice more adult than another...and its fairly random too...you can search penis and dick and vagina but not pussy....you can search dominant but not submissive or slave...sadomasochist yes and masochist no...bondage no but tourture yea...give me a break people. its ridiculous.
Clarissa Lowell
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06-17-2009 11:04
Trixxie some of those words can be used clinically or in other non sexual ways. "Sadomasochist..." I'm at a loss why that would not be on the 'list'. Maybe they forgot.
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06-17-2009 11:08
From: Trixxie Nitely
I take offense that u can search gay and lesbian but you cant search submissive or bdsm....not that I think the others should go on the list...but why is my choice more adult than another...and its fairly random too...you can search penis and dick and vagina but not pussy....you can search dominant but not submissive or slave...sadomasochist yes and masochist no...bondage no but tourture yea...give me a break people. its ridiculous.



Dear Trixxie,

It's a limited and ineffective system once people learn how it works:

* You can search for all but seven words if you activate the adult settings.

* Even without verifying your account you can evade the filter entirely by going outside SL to search (google "word + site:world.secondlife.com).

* Theres still about a million other words in english plus however many more in other languages you can use

* What a word *means* is under *our* control. We can shift or create new ones as we wish.

Language is a wonderfully flexible tool, and word filters are like a row of fenceposts without the rails in between. Yes, it hurts if you happen to walk into one of the posts, but if you watch where you are going, you can just walk around them :-)
DanielRavenNest Noe
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06-17-2009 11:08
From: Clarissa Lowell
Trixxie some of those words can be used clinically or in other non sexual ways. "Sadomasochist..." I'm at a loss why that would not be on the 'list'. Maybe they forgot.


The Linden staff are simply too vanilla to know all the good kinks :-)

(either that, or its their pet fetish and didnt want to ban it)

Really, since each person has a different set of turn ons and "eww, sick" turn offs, there is no way to make one list that everyone agrees with.
Bradley Bracken
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06-18-2009 15:23
From: Trixxie Nitely
I take offense that u can search gay and lesbian but you cant search submissive or bdsm....not that I think the others should go on the list...but why is my choice more adult than another...and its fairly random too...you can search penis and dick and vagina but not pussy....you can search dominant but not submissive or slave...sadomasochist yes and masochist no...bondage no but tourture yea...give me a break people. its ridiculous.


I take offense that you believe that being gay or lesbian should be included among those words.

Ignorance is so sad sometimes.
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Bradley Bracken
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06-18-2009 15:25
The reason you don't see XXX used is because it is not actually used by the censors. The designation is "X". Film producers started using XXX to make their films appear to be really dirty, but the film would legally be just an X.
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LittleMe Jewell
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06-18-2009 15:28
From: Bradley Bracken
The reason you don't see XXX used is because it is not actually used by the censors. The designation is "X". Film producers started using XXX to make their films appear to be really dirty, but the film would legally be just an X.
Oh man, I feel so duped.
:D
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06-18-2009 15:32
From: LittleMe Jewell
Oh man, I feel so duped.
:D

Better Latent than Never. ;)
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06-19-2009 03:42
This item is based on two pages from the SLapt.me site, plus quick instructions on how to upgrade to adult settings.

It is intended to be distributed to anyone, made into notecard givers, etc.

https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=1555750

Adult Information Kit Boxed

"This information kit contains three notecards about the Adult changes happening in SL:

* How to Upgrade - quick instructions on how to upgrade and access adult features

* Adult Information Summary - Answers basic questions about the adult changes with links to more information

* Adult Search Changes - Gives details of how SL search has changed starting with version 1.23 of the client software (the software you install on your home computer) "

[The last item contains the full details on the filtered words list, thus the relevance to this thread]
Phil Deakins
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06-19-2009 03:49
From: DanielRavenNest Noe
Its actually the input that is filtered, not the results.
The input may be filtered but the results are definitely filtered. If you do an All tab search on a searchterm that doesn't contain any filtered words, such as the single word 'furniture', no page will be returned that has a filtered word in it's Title or Description (parcel name or description). This has been tested. I've no idea about the other search tabs.
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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06-19-2009 14:38
From: Phil Deakins
The input may be filtered but the results are definitely filtered. If you do an All tab search on a searchterm that doesn't contain any filtered words, such as the single word 'furniture', no page will be returned that has a filtered word in it's Title or Description (parcel name or description). This has been tested. I've no idea about the other search tabs.


Go into Search/All using 1.23 software, set checkboxes to PG only, enter "Escorts" as the search term. 2nd result is "Playbunny Escorts". Description reads:

"redlight, sex, sexclub, freesex, sex, porno, XXX, sexchat, sexgirl, shops for rent, Sex, Girls, Money, Escorts, Shops, Striptease, 3some, 4some Sex, Lesbian, BDSM, Strippers, Porn, Sex Club, Urban, Animated Furniture, Jobs, Outdoor, Sexrooms, Hardcore, Blowjob, hardcore"

Porno, 3some, BDSM, Porn, and Blowjob are all currently filtered words, when you type them as inputs on their own.

My explanation is in the Adult Content Keywords wiki page:

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Adult_Content_Keywords

under "Filter Failures":

"Putting leading or trailing symbols (~, @, #, etc) around any filtered word gives adult results, with the exception of Plus and minus (+ -) used exclusively. "

The description above has trailing commas after each word, which makes the words show up. I would call that a badly designed piece of software.
Nimue Jewell
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06-19-2009 15:05
Are the filters for classifieds not working at all? Check only the PG search box and then search for free sex (no quotes required). Sex isn't a filtered keyword, so there are tons of listings, but look at the classifieds. There are a LOT of filtered keywords over there. Works the same in the classifieds tab.

You can't TP to places, but the ads are all still visible.
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Phil Deakins
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06-19-2009 16:55
From: DanielRavenNest Noe
Go into Search/All using 1.23 software, set checkboxes to PG only, enter "Escorts" as the search term. 2nd result is "Playbunny Escorts". Description reads:

"redlight, sex, sexclub, freesex, sex, porno, XXX, sexchat, sexgirl, shops for rent, Sex, Girls, Money, Escorts, Shops, Striptease, 3some, 4some Sex, Lesbian, BDSM, Strippers, Porn, Sex Club, Urban, Animated Furniture, Jobs, Outdoor, Sexrooms, Hardcore, Blowjob, hardcore"

Porno, 3some, BDSM, Porn, and Blowjob are all currently filtered words, when you type them as inputs on their own.

My explanation is in the Adult Content Keywords wiki page:

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Adult_Content_Keywords

under "Filter Failures":

"Putting leading or trailing symbols (~, @, #, etc) around any filtered word gives adult results, with the exception of Plus and minus (+ -) used exclusively. "

The description above has trailing commas after each word, which makes the words show up. I would call that a badly designed piece of software.
Yes, it's badly implemented, but the output *is* filtered. The example you gave has not only trailing commas but leading commas, although you have leading spaces in your text. There is one instance of "Sex" with a leading space though.

You can check for the output being filtered by modifying the name or description of a parcel that's set to show in search. Try it both with and without the word " sex " in it (spaces at both ends). It will show up for PG searches only when the word is taken out.
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Ciaran Laval
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06-19-2009 17:01
From: Nimue Jewell
Are the filters for classifieds not working at all? Check only the PG search box and then search for free sex (no quotes required). Sex isn't a filtered keyword, so there are tons of listings, but look at the classifieds. There are a LOT of filtered keywords over there. Works the same in the classifieds tab.

You can't TP to places, but the ads are all still visible.


The filters for classifieds work fine, what you are seeing are classifieds that haven't been marked as "mature content" and the places reside (hopefully) on mature sims. Recurring classifieds unless marked as "mature content" default to "PG content".

Working as intended, welcome to the predictable experience.
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06-19-2009 17:40
From: Ciaran Laval
The filters for classifieds work fine, what you are seeing are classifieds that haven't been marked as "mature content" and the places reside (hopefully) on mature sims. Recurring classifieds unless marked as "mature content" default to "PG content".

Working as intended, welcome to the predictable experience.


But, if I search classifieds using a filtered keyword they are blocked. That is separate from marking yourself mature.

Search for orgy in the classifieds tab with PG settings, you get a pop up in the lower right of the screen telling you that term is excluded based on content restrictions clarified in community standards. Now, same settings, search for dance club. The Neva Naughty Orgy room is one of the top results.

I couldn't care less if things like that show up, I'm just curious how all of this "works."
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06-19-2009 17:49
From: Phil Deakins
Yes, it's badly implemented, but the output *is* filtered. The example you gave has not only trailing commas but leading commas, although you have leading spaces in your text.


You need better glasses :-) I did a copy/paste directly from their result in Search/ALL, so the way it appears here is exactly the way it is in their description.
Ciaran Laval
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06-19-2009 17:51
From: Nimue Jewell
But, if I search classifieds using a filtered keyword they are blocked. That is separate from marking yourself mature.

Search for orgy in the classifieds tab with PG settings, you get a pop up in the lower right of the screen telling you that term is excluded based on content restrictions clarified in community standards. Now, same settings, search for dance club. The Neva Naughty Orgy room is one of the top results.

I couldn't care less if things like that show up, I'm just curious how all of this "works."


The word filter only works on words you input, it doesn't work on words that are output. So if an orgy room has the word "freebies" in its land description and you search for "freebies" you'll find that parcel if it has not been marked as "mature content" or the classified was never marked as "mature content".

There was a time when the "mature content" option didn't exist, so lots of classifieds default to PG when they should not.
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06-19-2009 18:00
From: Nimue Jewell
I couldn't care less if things like that show up, I'm just curious how all of this "works."


This is what I determined by extensive testing, and posted to the SLapt.me wiki. If anyone can demonstrate that any of this is wrong, I will immediately update the wiki (or you can do it yourself, but I will verify it afterwards, since I admin the wiki and want it to be correct):

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It is the input words to the search query that are filtered. They are simply dropped as if you did not type them, and the search is carried out on the remaining words you entered. The results that come back are not filtered,

[ The test for this is to use two words, one filtered, and one unfiltered, as the input, and see how many results come back. Then try the unfiltered word by itself, and note that the same number of results come back ]

In general, the filter works by exact match to a word on the list. The following failures to filter have been noted:

*Words in other languages than english are generally unfiltered:

A sample of filtered words above were tested in French, German, and Italian and were not filtered.

*Slight changes to words in english makes the filter fail:

* Putting leading or trailing symbols (~, @, #, etc) around any filtered word gives adult results, with the exception of Plus and minus (+ -) used exclusively.

[Plus and minus are detected because they are used as boolean operators in the search query. Other symbols are not detected because of crappy programming in my opinion]

Example:

Penis balls - penis is filtered
Penis(balls) - penis is not filtered because of trailing ";("
Penis (balls) - penis is filtered because of the separating space

* Spelling changes fail to filter a word:

Use of number one instead of lowercase L
zero instead of letter O
Dollar sign instead of letter S
Use of international characters such as tilde, cedilla or umlaut

* Plurals mostly fail

* Split or joined words mostly fail

* Filtered words which are substrings within longer words are unfiltered

* Hyphenated words are generally unfiltered

*Some changes still keep the filter working:

* Capitalization does not matter
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06-19-2009 18:08
Okay, this is all just getting a little bit too weird - some of these words considered offensive are medically correct and will be found in primary school library books.
Even if they are NOW not restricted, very idea of restricting them in first place is bizarre. This Salem-Mentality that is becoming prevalent must end. Please. Who are we trying NOT to offend?
If clitoris or vagina or penis or labia (or "bum" for that matter) is offensive or ever WAS offensive - tell me why.
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06-19-2009 18:41
DanielRavenNest & Ciaran thanks for the help. I think I am starting to get it.

Still playing around with it and seeing things that are happening that I am not sure I understand yet, but I am getting closer...I think.
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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06-19-2009 18:46
The seven always filtered words make sense, they are banned activities in SL
* Ageplay
* Casino
* Gambling
* Loli
* Lottery
* Pedophile
* Pedophilia

The other 65, don't have any consistent rationale that I can find. Sometimes misspelled or variant spellings are listed, other times not. Many synonyms are not listed. Not a single drug related word is listed, even though illicit drugs are part of the adult definitions.

You would have to ask the people who decided what to put in or leave out. Start with Marty and Cyn Linden, the corporate counsel and VP of customer relations. If they didnt decide themselves, they should know who did. I'm pretty sure the software coders who actually designed the filter did not get to choose what words to put in.
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06-20-2009 01:21
From: DanielRavenNest Noe
You need better glasses :-) I did a copy/paste directly from their result in Search/ALL, so the way it appears here is exactly the way it is in their description.
I thought you may have copied and pasted it, but my glasses are just fine. What I said is correct - trailing and leading commas except for one instance. I used the website search, which returns PG filtered results.

However, the results *are* filtered. Don't just go by your first impression of what you see - do the test yourself, and you'll find that the results are filtered, regardless of the input (searchterm). In other words, a parcel's page will not be returned that has the word " sex ", for instance, in its name or description, regardless of the searchterm (e.g. furniture) - note the leading and trailing spaces around "sex". It's the reason why people are using the word "adult" instead.

If your wiki says otherwise, you really do need to do the test, because the wiki is wrong.

ETA:
They've changed it since I did the "sex" test a few weeks ago and now that word isn't filtered at all, so it's no longer a good one to test with. But if you use a filtered word, you'll find that the results are filtered regardless of the searchterm used (input).
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06-20-2009 05:21
From: Phil Deakins
However, the results *are* filtered. Don't just go by your first impression of what you see - do the test yourself, and you'll find that the results are filtered, regardless of the input (searchterm). In other words, a parcel's page will not be returned that has the word " sex ", for instance, in its name or description, regardless of the searchterm (e.g. furniture) - note the leading and trailing spaces around "sex". It's the reason why people are using the word "adult" instead.


They were, I'm sure they were, but this no longer seems to be the case. I can recall wondering in an early version of the RC why one of my parcels wasn't showing up and found the word "Gorean" was the problem.

However today I can search for "Sex Furniture, MoCap Animations" and find a parcel third in the list that if I use some of the words in the description, such as "BDSM" I'll get the message that I have used a search word that isn't allowed for PG search.
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06-20-2009 06:06
From: Marianne McCann
This will make Mosely Sperber happy. He sells virtual birds, including a whole line of marsh tits. great tits, etc.



Is tatas filtered?

Because I have a breast cancer pink ribbon shirt that say save the tatas, I would HATE to think people could not get these because they are considered adult
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