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Kidd Krasner
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07-24-2009 08:45
From: Arielyn Docherty
If I call my line of furniture "Prim Savers", or call my furniture "prim savers" in keywords, that's not exactly using Phil's store for my own advancement.

Assuming that Phil's store is called Prim Savers, then yes, you would be using his brand name for your own advancement.
Arielyn Docherty
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07-24-2009 09:22
I guess my point was, is the competition using the OPs name purposefully to gain traffic and sales?? If my furniture was "prim saving" and I thought I had somehow come up with the phrase myself ("Wow! It saves prims....hah! I'll call it prim savers furniture!";), that's different than if I said to myself, "Hey, self! Wouldn't it help our business if we capitalized on Phil's 'Prim Savers' concept and used his name in our advertisements??" Not knowing the OPs business, it's hard for me to understand why other businesses would profit by putting HIS name in THEIR keywords, unless they had inadvertently called their product the same thing. When we were looking for a name for our line of builds, we checked every possible combination of a few words only to find that others had used them. If we HADN'T checked, and used one that someone else had, we would NOT be intentionally using the name to capitalize on someone else's success. (OK, yeah, it would be stupid not to check, but the OP doesn't make it clear if he used the name first or just used it and decided to claim it after the fact). Now that I've beaten that dead horse....

(Not that I talk to myself....not that there's anything wrong with that) ;)
Martina Petrovic
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07-24-2009 10:26
I think Lindal kidd has got it.

There was a case a couple of years ago where a german coffee shop was trying to stop an english coffee shop from using a logo because they said it was similar to theres. The judge said as the english shop had been using it before the germans trademarked it, they could continue to use said logo.

I think the same applys to you. You admitted it was being used before you had the copyright, so they have been using it longer than you. Although i admit there is a difference between copyright and trademark.

Is it that simple??
Maelstrom Janus
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07-24-2009 10:46
Please dont start on copyright or before you know it anyone who has an avvy, or object based on a character or item from a film or tv show will soon be banned from using it in sl....and Im sure that would be a further downer to sl users who are fans of a mass of different genres who derive great pleasure as I do using media related objects without any intention of harming anyones copyrights....
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Marianne McCann
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07-24-2009 11:16
From: Ee Maculate
The Official Friday Thread! :)


]I was thinking the same thing.
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Kyrah Abattoir
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07-24-2009 12:33
I believe the action of using another brand's name in your search keywoard is called.. related keywords or something

"If you like merchanX you might want to check merchang Y too."


I'm not taking any position on this issue tho.
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sounds Turner
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07-24-2009 17:29
Ok so the point is, unless you own the name and it's your trademark,
There's nothing stopping another business using your name to their advantage

Great isin't it?
Maybe i should have thought before posting this but it's very intresting
You get to learn about the slimey side of business, the sleezy business owners
It doesn't really effect me, it's just unfortunate to see how low some people will go.
Adams Scarmon
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07-24-2009 17:43
Sl is a game.
No need t o take a million dollar business to the GRID lol..
Katheryne Helendale
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07-24-2009 18:31
From: sounds Turner
The way i see it, Second Life is full of illegal activities, piracy, child pornography etc.
It only takes investigation in-world for any legal authorities to find evidence of this.
And hopefully that doesn't have to be the case here, if the labs help me resolve this.
Wow. Can somebody say "extortion"?

Particularly with regards to child pornography. Way to use a hot-button buzzword to try to garner support for your cause. Consider this: If you are party to, or knowledgeable of, illegal activities such as child pornography, and do nothing to report it, then that makes you an accomplice. 'Nuff said.

Your manifesto may actually have *some* credibility (if one disregards the blatant extortion attempt) if you made some effort to spell- and grammar-check your document before posting it. You state you are from Ireland; I am quite certain English is the official and primary language there.
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Ceka Cianci
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07-24-2009 18:57
if i open something like say Coca Cola bumper car manufacturing would the name still be considered the Cola's name ?
just curious.
being Friday and all :D
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sounds Turner
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07-24-2009 18:59
From: Adams Scarmon
Sl is a game.
No need t o take a million dollar business to the GRID lol..



It's a game if you're looking for entertainment, it's whatever you create
It's also a great platform to built a virtual business and provide a service
It's up to the individual how they provide that service, i'd rather try built a
good reputation, than going round taking advantage of others for a few L's

Try building a web site and driving as much traffic to it, traffic not included
Virtual worlds are full of potential business, real people with individual requirements
Pick one and learn about it, find out what people want and provide a good service
That's how i like to play the game

Am i making any sence?
Pserendipity Daniels
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07-25-2009 03:43
From: sounds Turner
Am i making any sence?

I think you have answered your own question. :rolleyes:

Pep (It's not worth discussing such things with those of limited literacy. :p )
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Ephraim Kappler
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07-25-2009 03:57
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Pep (It's not worth discussing such things with those of limited literacy. :p )

sumtimez u can b so condissendine.
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07-25-2009 04:20
Intellectual property, copyright, trademark law etc are difficult concepts for smart people to be able to wrangle. Someone that spells sense incorrectly is not likely to be able to cope.

Pep (Tried arguing with a teenager recently?)
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07-25-2009 05:36
From: Pserendipity Daniels

Pep (Tried arguing with a teenager recently?)


For me - that's a way of life.

I just wish I was taller though - so I could look them straight in the eyes.
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Ephraim Kappler
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07-25-2009 06:44
From: Deira Llanfair
I just wish I was taller though - so I could look them straight in the eyes.

Kick them in the shins, look them straight in the eye when they bend over in pain.
Deira Llanfair
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07-25-2009 07:02
From: Ephraim Kappler
Kick them in the shins, look them straight in the eye when they bend over in pain.



Haha! Yeah, both of them at once.
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07-25-2009 07:11
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Intellectual property, copyright, trademark law etc are difficult concepts for smart people to be able to wrangle. Someone that spells sense incorrectly is not likely to be able to cope.

Pep (Tried arguing with a teenager recently?)


Though not a teen anymore I can still revert to teen behaviour. I am a Cleopatra of "Hissy Fits".
You would submit, believe me, to my demands. :)
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sounds Turner
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07-25-2009 15:52
Oh my mistake, was early morning when i was laughing at the replys here
Don't go turning this topic into an excuse to take ur late nite tensions out on
someone for misspelling a few words, just find another topic to post in.

Just trying to make a point on how some folks handle their business affairs in SL
Does nothing for me but might teach someone else how to avoid these mistakes

or perhaphs have a few laughs reading the friday thread
Katheryne Helendale
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07-25-2009 20:18
From: Marianne McCann
]I was thinking the same thing.
Damn, I think you and I have been had. This *was* the Official Friday Thread... Five weeks ago! :eek:
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