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Argent Stonecutter

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01-04-2009 20:41

They should send all the newbies to Greenies Home Rezzable.

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Susie Boffin

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Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 2,151

01-04-2009 20:46

From: Yumi Murakami

Newbies have to have SOMEWHERE that is their first experience outside the Prelude, though, and it helps to have people there so that the new folks don't think SL is empty.

Then LL ought to send them to NCI or the Shelter.

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Yumi Murakami

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Join date: 27 Sep 2005

Posts: 6,860

01-04-2009 21:07

From: Susie Boffin

Then LL ought to send them to NCI or the Shelter.

I believe that would fairly greatly change the character of those places. I think it's wrong to suggest that every newbie wants help - some might be happy to stand around at a WA for a few hours, chat to people and check our the things people are showing off. I know I did at Ahern when I was starting, although it was quieter then (no free accounts!). People at NCI are usually, at least initially, there to be helped, and having every newbie bearing down on the sites would alter that quite a bit.

Susie Boffin

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Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 2,151

01-04-2009 21:24

From: Yumi Murakami

I believe that would fairly greatly change the character of those places. I think it's wrong to suggest that every newbie wants help - some might be happy to stand around at a WA for a few hours, chat to people and check our the things people are showing off. I know I did at Ahern when I was starting, although it was quieter then (no free accounts!). People at NCI are usually, at least initially, there to be helped, and having every newbie bearing down on the sites would alter that quite a bit.

Perhaps but I see no reason to send them to the very worst places in Second Life. When I started SL there was only one Welcome Area and it was indeed a Welcoming Area with plenty of people willing to help new residents. I see none of that in the current Welcome Areas.

When a new resident enters SL they start at orientation with helpful tutorials and then they are sent to a Help Island with more tutorials plus helpful Mentors to get them started. I see no reason why they should then be sent to griefer infested areas such as the so-called Welcome Areas. Send them anywhere but to these cesspools.

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Yumi Murakami

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Join date: 27 Sep 2005

Posts: 6,860

01-04-2009 22:30

Griefers will go wherever newbies are, because they are easy targets and many griefers are disposable alts who go through the same newbie process. Moving the arrival point would just move the griefers too.

Toy LaFollette

I eat paintchips

Join date: 11 Feb 2004

Posts: 2,359

01-04-2009 22:40

the problem with existing WA's is there is no control.... very little help but plenty of griefing. Non LL WA's have the control that has been missing in the WA's for years now. The WA's of 2004-2005 are not the same as they are now.

Why? LL doesnt care about them, its just about the numbers. At least if new rezzies had a safe place to be sent to I feel the retention would increase. It's possible to have a fun, yet safe area for new people and the griefers would grow weary of being ejected and banned.

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Baloo Uriza

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Join date: 19 Apr 2008

Posts: 895

01-04-2009 23:19

From: Jean Swashbuckler

Hmmm, my understanding was they are. If not, then it needs to be LL staff.

US$10/mo is what they get, which is probably what most of 'em go through in uploads.

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Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	01-04-2009 20:41 They should send all the newbies to Greenies Home Rezzable. _____________________ Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/ "And now I'm going to show you something really cool." Skyhook Station - http://xrl.us/skyhook23 Coonspiracy Store - http://xrl.us/coonstore
Susie Boffin Certified Nutcase Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,151	01-04-2009 20:46 From: Yumi Murakami Newbies have to have SOMEWHERE that is their first experience outside the Prelude, though, and it helps to have people there so that the new folks don't think SL is empty. Then LL ought to send them to NCI or the Shelter. _____________________ "If you see a man approaching you with the obvious intent of doing you good, you should run for your life." - Henry David Thoreau
Yumi Murakami DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat! Join date: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,860	01-04-2009 21:07 From: Susie Boffin Then LL ought to send them to NCI or the Shelter. I believe that would fairly greatly change the character of those places. I think it's wrong to suggest that every newbie wants help - some might be happy to stand around at a WA for a few hours, chat to people and check our the things people are showing off. I know I did at Ahern when I was starting, although it was quieter then (no free accounts!). People at NCI are usually, at least initially, there to be helped, and having every newbie bearing down on the sites would alter that quite a bit.
Susie Boffin Certified Nutcase Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,151	01-04-2009 21:24 From: Yumi Murakami I believe that would fairly greatly change the character of those places. I think it's wrong to suggest that every newbie wants help - some might be happy to stand around at a WA for a few hours, chat to people and check our the things people are showing off. I know I did at Ahern when I was starting, although it was quieter then (no free accounts!). People at NCI are usually, at least initially, there to be helped, and having every newbie bearing down on the sites would alter that quite a bit. Perhaps but I see no reason to send them to the very worst places in Second Life. When I started SL there was only one Welcome Area and it was indeed a Welcoming Area with plenty of people willing to help new residents. I see none of that in the current Welcome Areas. When a new resident enters SL they start at orientation with helpful tutorials and then they are sent to a Help Island with more tutorials plus helpful Mentors to get them started. I see no reason why they should then be sent to griefer infested areas such as the so-called Welcome Areas. Send them anywhere but to these cesspools. _____________________ "If you see a man approaching you with the obvious intent of doing you good, you should run for your life." - Henry David Thoreau
Yumi Murakami DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat! Join date: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,860	01-04-2009 22:30 Griefers will go wherever newbies are, because they are easy targets and many griefers are disposable alts who go through the same newbie process. Moving the arrival point would just move the griefers too.
Toy LaFollette I eat paintchips Join date: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 2,359	01-04-2009 22:40 the problem with existing WA's is there is no control.... very little help but plenty of griefing. Non LL WA's have the control that has been missing in the WA's for years now. The WA's of 2004-2005 are not the same as they are now. Why? LL doesnt care about them, its just about the numbers. At least if new rezzies had a safe place to be sent to I feel the retention would increase. It's possible to have a fun, yet safe area for new people and the griefers would grow weary of being ejected and banned. _____________________ "So you see, my loyalty lies with Second Life, not with Linden Lab. Where I perceive the actions of Linden Lab to be in conflict with the best interests of Second Life, I side with Second Life."-Jacek
Baloo Uriza Debian Linux Helper Join date: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 895	01-04-2009 23:19 From: Jean Swashbuckler Hmmm, my understanding was they are. If not, then it needs to be LL staff. US$10/mo is what they get, which is probably what most of 'em go through in uploads.

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