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New Viewer.... Say Huh ?

VonGklugelstein Alter
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04-04-2008 10:03
Is it me or does the new viewer now


! Make the Water look more fake than it used to?

! Make the grass look like Fuzzy Green Dirt?

! Put water all around the perimeter of your draw distance making it look like you are on an Island even in the mountains?




How do I change back to the old viewer?
Allegria Kanto
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04-04-2008 10:05
There is a link to the old viewer in yesterday's blog.
Ross Stringer
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04-04-2008 10:05
From: VonGklugelstein Alter

! Put water all around the perimeter of your draw distance making it look like you are on an Island even in the mountains?


It does this anyway on all viewers duh!, You never noticed before?
VonGklugelstein Alter
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04-04-2008 10:14
From: Ross Stringer
It does this anyway on all viewers duh!, You never noticed before?

not really, the old viewer did not crop out buildings as hard and I believe used fog to blend into the horizon..

unless all this crack is making me see or not see things
Ann Launay
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04-04-2008 10:22
From: Ross Stringer
It does this anyway on all viewers duh!, You never noticed before?

Only the Windlight enabled viewers do that actually. Things just faded away at the edges of someone's draw distance in the prior versions.
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Marianne McCann
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04-04-2008 10:27
From: VonGklugelstein Alter
Is it me or does the new viewer now

! Make the Water look more fake than it used to?

! Make the grass look like Fuzzy Green Dirt?

! Put water all around the perimeter of your draw distance making it look like you are on an Island even in the mountains?

How do I change back to the old viewer?


It is you, essentially. Your graphic slider, under "Preferences" is set to "low" most likely. Try fiddling with Medium, or click "custom" and adjust your settings as desired.

There are links to the old viewer in the recent SL blog posting "A well oiled machine."

Mari
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Solanghe Sarlo
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04-04-2008 10:43
Does anyone know the best settings to get rid of that washed out, bright light spotting that happens on surfaces? It's like a mega ball of light - I seem to see it most in the noon setting. It'a annoying. I don't have glow turned on by the way.

Also...has anyone tried the new viewer with windlight disabled? (Shaders check off). If so, what do you think of the performance then?
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04-04-2008 10:58
From: Solanghe Sarlo
It's like a mega ball of light - I seem to see it most in the noon setting.

The Sun?

From: Solanghe Sarlo
Does anyone know the best settings to get rid of that washed out, bright light spotting that happens on surfaces?

Environmental settings > Midnight

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Kitty Barnett
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04-04-2008 11:10
From: VonGklugelstein Alter
Make the Water look more fake than it used to?
There's two kinds of water though...

If you're seeing bland shifting dark blue unremarkable water, that's the 'default' Linden water. If you could see ripple water before and can't now even with "Basic shaders" set, LL took the liberty of disabling it for you because they don't feel your old card deserves pretty water (open gpu_table.txt, look up your card and see if it has a 0 - the class - right next to it, followed by a 1 - card is supported in general. Change the 0 into a 1 and you get ripple water, reflections and glow back).

If you don't like the new sparkles/white dots they put into the water, that's something to just get used to :(.

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Put water all around the perimeter of your draw distance making it look like you are on an Island even in the mountains?
I'd guess this was done to improve performance. Windlight really is slower even without all the shiny, rendering less than before is one way they can claim it's actually faster :rolleyes:.

From: someone
How do I change back to the old viewer?
Unless you're having actual problems, it's best to get used to the "improved Windlight experience" since the viewer will become mandatory at some point.
Rhaorth Antonelli
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04-04-2008 12:08
how do you guys know this stuff LOL

I am trying out that graphics thing in the gpu_table.txt
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Solanghe Sarlo
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04-04-2008 12:13
From: Gomez Bracken
The Sun?


Environmental settings > Midnight

Gomez



Ok, it's not the sun :rolleyes:

The light appears on SURFACES - like the side of my house, the base of my fireplace,etc.

From: Gomez Bracken
Environmental settings > Midnight


What did you mean by this Gomez? :confused:
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Ann Launay
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04-04-2008 12:18
From: Kitty Barnett

Unless you're having actual problems, it's best to get used to the "improved Windlight experience" since the viewer will become mandatory at some point.

I didn't have any problems running the WL versions I tried, but I'm still going to enjoy the old viewer as long as I possibly can. I'll switch only when they force me too.

Why? Because WL makes avs and many builds look fugly IMO. Generally speaking, I really don't care about pretty skies and water, and Nicholaz's last patch makes 18.5.3 run just dandy for me.
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Darien Caldwell
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04-04-2008 12:18
You had better just keep the new viewer, it's now Mandatory.

http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/04/04/update-to-second-life-119-viewer-now-required/
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Dagmar Heideman
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04-04-2008 12:21
From: Solanghe Sarlo
Does anyone know the best settings to get rid of that washed out, bright light spotting that happens on surfaces? It's like a mega ball of light - I seem to see it most in the noon setting. It'a annoying. I don't have glow turned on by the way.
Does glow = local lighting? I found that washed out lighting effects for me seemed to eminate from local lighting such as the lighting in my house. Turning it down got rid of it for me.
Ann Launay
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04-04-2008 12:22
From: Darien Caldwell
You had better just keep the new viewer, it's now Mandatory.

ffs, why the hell did they just make that lovey dovey post about still being able to use the previous one then?

Grrrrrr
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04-04-2008 12:27
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
how do you guys know this stuff LOL
We've been playing with the First Look and Release Candidate viewers for a few months now. Who here remembers the sky-rings bug? (^_^)y
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Endra Graves
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New Viewer.... Say Huh?
04-04-2008 12:33
Is there ANY way to get a ZIPPED copy of the new viewer? I've been using the 18.4 viewer until just now with them making this new one mandatory because I have not been able to download any of the new viewers since that one. I either get partway into the download of the viewer and it locks up and says it cant download, OR it downloads all the way then is not able to be used, saying its bugged. Its NOT my computer, and its NOT SL, its something between them and me bugging out the file(i'm thinking my isp, who say its not them). The only large files I have been able to download for months without this problem have been files that are zipped. So, without the viewer being zipped, I'm going to have to leave SL with the new viewer being required. So.. suggestions or a link to a zipped copy anyone?
Alicia Sautereau
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04-04-2008 12:42
From: Endra Graves
Is there ANY way to get a ZIPPED copy of the new viewer? I've been using the 18.4 viewer until just now with them making this new one mandatory because I have not been able to download any of the new viewers since that one. I either get partway into the download of the viewer and it locks up and says it cant download, OR it downloads all the way then is not able to be used, saying its bugged. Its NOT my computer, and its NOT SL, its something between them and me bugging out the file(i'm thinking my isp, who say its not them). The only large files I have been able to download for months without this problem have been files that are zipped. So, without the viewer being zipped, I'm going to have to leave SL with the new viewer being required. So.. suggestions or a link to a zipped copy anyone?

uploading a rar`d version for you (just the packed .exe as .rar), still a couple of min upload left as my up speed is only 100kb/s :(
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04-04-2008 12:42
From: Ann Launay
ffs, why the hell did they just make that lovey dovey post about still being able to use the previous one then?

Grrrrrr


To distract you from the asset issues? :p
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Alicia Sautereau
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04-04-2008 12:47
From: Endra Graves
Is there ANY way to get a ZIPPED copy of the new viewer? I've been using the 18.4 viewer until just now with them making this new one mandatory because I have not been able to download any of the new viewers since that one. I either get partway into the download of the viewer and it locks up and says it cant download, OR it downloads all the way then is not able to be used, saying its bugged. Its NOT my computer, and its NOT SL, its something between them and me bugging out the file(i'm thinking my isp, who say its not them). The only large files I have been able to download for months without this problem have been files that are zipped. So, without the viewer being zipped, I'm going to have to leave SL with the new viewer being required. So.. suggestions or a link to a zipped copy anyone?

http://users.klsl.net/Second_Life_1-19-1-4_Setup.rar

packed .exe, hope it helps :)
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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04-04-2008 12:51
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
We've been playing with the First Look and Release Candidate viewers for a few months now. Who here remembers the sky-rings bug? (^_^)y



I use FL and RC and beta... but never would I know enough to dig through the txt files to change a setting LOL
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Ann Launay
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04-04-2008 12:56
Has anyone checked to see if Nicholaz's last viewer patch is still working? I can't do it until I get home and he said this not to long ago:

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Please don't worry about the 1.19 becoming mandatory. The Nicholaz Editions are using their own channel (the word/phrase you see in the lower right corner on the login screen) since 1.18..0.6 so unless the Lindens do something entirely unexpected, BE-v will continue to run nicely.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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04-04-2008 12:58
From: Ann Launay
Has anyone checked to see if Nicholaz's last viewer patch is still working? I can't do it until I get home and he said this not to long ago:

1.18.5.3 BE-v still works, tried it after cristalle said it should work :p

edit
question is how ever for how long...
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04-04-2008 13:08
From: Kitty Barnett
... Unless you're having actual problems, it's best to get used to the "improved Windlight experience" since the viewer will become mandatory at some point.

From: Darien Caldwell
You had better just keep the new viewer, it's now Mandatory.
Wel.... only sort of -- I am still using 1.18.5.3 with Nicholaz and just verified that it does still work
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04-04-2008 13:19
here`s a joke

Grid services are more stable then 1.19
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