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Raymond Figtree

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Join date: 17 May 2006

Posts: 6,256

10-29-2007 17:45

From: Sucha Jewell

BUT RAYMOND, I thought they won't bill me unless I actually buy land from them. No? I have to update that? It says Square meters owned 0 and square meters donated 0. Do I still have to update the amount under it with those option buttons and go to 0 perhaps? or what?

Ok Oryx I just readyour response too. Will do that right now.

Thanks everyone. You are allllll darlings for all the help.

Do come visit me in my current land if you want.

I'm not sure if you have never purchased land. But I had a friend who at one time had the tier at $40 and was billed $40 every month even when he sold his land months earlier because he did not check the $0 box.

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Princess Ivory

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10-29-2007 19:41

From: Ann Launay

Since my main account is a little older, I get a 400L stipend on it, plus the 300L for the alt...I buy yearly subscriptions, which means the stipends pretty much pay for the memberships. I have 3,072m in land, which should be $25 per month, but with splitting it between the two accounts and donating their tier, it's actually $16 ($8 per).

Ok, I'm a math idiot. It makes sense when you explain it as it pertains to your account, but when I try to run my numbers, I cannot come out with any combination of tier splits that make it cheaper to use two premium accounts instead of one.

I own 36368 square meters. Working backwards, I need tier worth 33062 square meters, to donate to group with 10% bonus to cover this land I own. (And I have no idea where the 512 fits it. Does it count for extra 10% too, or just straight value?)

So, needing approximately 33062 square meters of paid tier, what combination between myself and my husband would result in a cheaper monthly tier when added together? Nothing I try comes up less - it comes up more expensive using two accounts instead of one. But as I said, I am a math idiot.

Someone please, set me straight here about what to do!

Princess Ivory

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Ann Launay

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10-29-2007 20:54

From: Princess Ivory

Someone please, set me straight here about what to do!

OK, hopefully I did this right...I haven't been sleeping well. lol

Current tier/single Premium account:

36,368m=$195/mo (same tier even if 512m bonus is deducted)

Less group bonus:

36,368m/1.1=33,062m

Less tier-free bonus x2:

33,062m-1024m=32,038

Prospective tier/two Premium accounts:

32,038m=$125/mo

Additional annual membership fee:

$72/yr

Year Premium stipend:

300L*52 wk/yr=15,600 L/yr

USD conversion:

15,600L/286 L/$=$54.55

Current yearly tier, plus single Premium membership, less stipend:

($195*12)+$72-$54.55=$2357.45

Prospective yearly tier, plus two Premium memberships, less stipend:

($125*12)+2($72-54.55)=$1534.90

Total potential savings:

$2357.45-1534.9=$822.55

Edit: In this case, it works out more cheaply to have one av pay the entire tier. Splitting it would give you $75 each, which is obviously more.

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Okiphia Rayna

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10-29-2007 20:58

From: Aki Shichiroji

- to get your 'free' 512sqm in tier, you need to purchase land from the mainland.

- If you intend to buy 1/8 of a region right out, that's fine... but personally I would start at a low amt and gradually increase as needed. You may find that, given the geographic specifics of the land you purchase, you don't need that much.

Wheres my 'free' 512m then? All my land is mainland, but it all counts in my tier

Ann Launay

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10-29-2007 21:06

From: Okiphia Rayna

Wheres my 'free' 512m then? All my land is mainland, but it all counts in my tier

It's rolled in. I own 3072m, yet each of my accounts is only charged for 1024m, or 2048m total.

http://www.secondlife.com/account/landfees.php

(Scroll down a bit.)

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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

Susie Boffin

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10-29-2007 21:11

Sucha if you are paying anyone but Linden Labs for your land you are not buying it but merely renting it.

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Stephen Zenith

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10-30-2007 02:23

From: Raymond Figtree

I'm not sure if you have never purchased land. But I had a friend who at one time had the tier at $40 and was billed $40 every month even when he sold his land months earlier because he did not check the $0 box.

That's not my experience. The setting on the website only affects the warnings you get about tiering up. I've had my tier on there showing several sims worth, which I didn't actually own in that month. The amount I was charged reflected the amount I'd owned, not what the tier was set to.

This was also backed up by something on the website, but of course I can't find it now.

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Sucha Jewell

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Join date: 30 Mar 2007

Posts: 37

ouch susie

10-30-2007 06:47

is that true? then I am renting it? so everyone who owns land outside mainland is renting it? how do I own land outside mainland from Linden Labs then in order to own?

See, I was having this problem.. which is why I went to premium account - I was concerned that if those people who owned it just decided to leave, then what happens? there is nothing that says I am paying them [except of course my paypal account], but it bothers me that it is not from Linden straight.

So what do I do to get land that I actually 'own' - [granted of curse that Linden itself might decide to just leave as well!].

Now that I have the premium account, anyone knows of land I can actually 'buy' from Linden? done a search and they are all tiny 16 sq m etc on mainland.

Anyone?

Ann Launay

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10-30-2007 06:53

From: Sucha Jewell

how do I own land outside mainland from Linden Labs then in order to own?

Buy an island.

From: someone

Now that I have the premium account, anyone knows of land I can actually 'buy' from Linden? done a search and they are all tiny 16 sq m etc on mainland.

You don't have to buy from a Linden. Go to Search>Land Sales and use the drop down menu to select 'For Sale - Mainland.' I just looked and there were plenty of plots larger than 16m.

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From: someone

I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

Sucha Jewell

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Join date: 30 Mar 2007

Posts: 37

sheeesh!!

10-30-2007 10:23

an island? US$ 1600 ? Holy.... moly...

hmmm...

Oryx Tempel

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Join date: 8 Nov 2006

Posts: 7,663

10-30-2007 10:28

From: Oryx Tempel

Sucha,

The Mainland is any of the BIG BIG BIG continents on the map. These parcels can be owned directly by you. You pay Linden Lab, and ONLY Linden Lab for tier. You will actually BUY the parcel from another human being. Think of it like buying a RL piece of land; you buy it from Joe Bob, but you pay property taxes on it to the US Gov't. That's what tier is.

The "free" 512 tier means you don't have to pay "taxes" on 512 meters of land, no matter how much you own. If you own 1024, you pay for 512 of tier. If you own 1536, you pay for 1024, and so on.

If you own 512, you pay nothing. If you own 1024, you pay $5/month. If you own 1025, you pay $8/month.

I guess I'm not understanding your confusion, Sucha. You will most probably NEVER buy land directly from LL. You will buy it from Joe Bob avatar. You pay tier to LL.

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Okiphia Rayna

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Join date: 22 Sep 2007

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10-30-2007 10:32

From: Oryx Tempel

I guess I'm not understanding your confusion, Sucha. You will most probably NEVER buy land directly from LL. You will buy it from Joe Bob avatar. You pay tier to LL.

only way you buy land from LL that I know of is buying a Sim from them, or through land auctions.

Raymond Figtree

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Join date: 17 May 2006

Posts: 6,256

10-30-2007 10:34

From: Sucha Jewell

is that true? then I am renting it? so everyone who owns land outside mainland is renting it? how do I own land outside mainland from Linden Labs then in order to own?

See, I was having this problem.. which is why I went to premium account - I was concerned that if those people who owned it just decided to leave, then what happens? there is nothing that says I am paying them [except of course my paypal account], but it bothers me that it is not from Linden straight.

So what do I do to get land that I actually 'own' - [granted of curse that Linden itself might decide to just leave as well!].

Now that I have the premium account, anyone knows of land I can actually 'buy' from Linden? done a search and they are all tiny 16 sq m etc on mainland.

Anyone?

Go into land sales in search. Sort by For sale Mainland. Set the size you want to search at 512 or more. start searching. Everything you see there is land you are entitled to with your premium account. You will pay another resident for the land, but once it's yours, it's yours and you never have to pay them again, just tier to LL.

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Ann Launay

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Join date: 8 Aug 2006

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10-30-2007 10:38

From: Sucha Jewell

an island? US$ 1600 ? Holy.... moly...

hmmm...

You said 'land outside mainland'...that would be an island. The options are to buy your own or lease/rent a parcel from someone else. If you do the latter, there's no point in being Premium; it isn't required for island living and your 512m tier-free isn't applicable. Also, you have to be very, very careful who you lease from, as you have no real rights to the land as far as LL knows...it's a contract between Residents and they won't get involved if things go badly.

Actually, I don't think you need to be Premium to buy an island either...

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From: someone

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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

Ciaran Laval

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Join date: 11 Mar 2007

Posts: 7,951

10-30-2007 10:50

From: Sucha Jewell

is that true? then I am renting it? so everyone who owns land outside mainland is renting it? how do I own land outside mainland from Linden Labs then in order to own?

This is open to debate. If you buy estate land then the estate owner can in theory reclaim it at the drop of a hat.

If you don't keep up your tier payments, then the estate owner almost certainly will reclaim the land.

However if you buy estate land from a reputable estate owner, follow the rules, keep up with your tier payments, then you will be fine. The same as if you buy mainland, follow the rules, keep up your tier and membership payments, then you'll be fine. If the estate owner allows you to resell the land then it's pretty much the same principle as mainland, it's just riskier because you need to trust the estate owner to keep paying LL and not run for the hills.

From: Sucha Jewell

See, I was having this problem.. which is why I went to premium account - I was concerned that if those people who owned it just decided to leave, then what happens? there is nothing that says I am paying them [except of course my paypal account], but it bothers me that it is not from Linden straight.

This is true. LL are the most trustworthy landlord here. If LL go bust, so does everyone else. We all have to trust LL.

From: Sucha Jewell

So what do I do to get land that I actually 'own' - [granted of curse that Linden itself might decide to just leave as well!].

Nothing, it's not currently possible. All you can do is lease land. You don't own it under the current model, be it mainland or estate land, no matter what Philip Rosedale says in television interviews.

From: Sucha Jewell

Now that I have the premium account, anyone knows of land I can actually 'buy' from Linden? done a search and they are all tiny 16 sq m etc on mainland.

Anyone?

Just do a filter for mainland only in the land search window. You can enter a land size parcel to try and avoid seeing all the 16M listings.

Sucha Jewell

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Join date: 30 Mar 2007

Posts: 37

ok I am getting it

10-30-2007 13:22

Ok I think I now hear all this explanation and am getting it. NO confusion any more I believe. My only real issue here was trying to make it a 'reliable' sale. I love where I am and what I have done to the land and just did not want someone to suddenly drop it and my land with it. So now this all makes sense.

Thanks a million.

Land purchase and premium accounts
Raymond Figtree Gone, avi, gone Join date: 17 May 2006 Posts: 6,256	10-29-2007 17:45 From: Sucha Jewell BUT RAYMOND, I thought they won't bill me unless I actually buy land from them. No? I have to update that? It says Square meters owned 0 and square meters donated 0. Do I still have to update the amount under it with those option buttons and go to 0 perhaps? or what? Ok Oryx I just readyour response too. Will do that right now. Thanks everyone. You are allllll darlings for all the help. Do come visit me in my current land if you want. I'm not sure if you have never purchased land. But I had a friend who at one time had the tier at $40 and was billed $40 every month even when he sold his land months earlier because he did not check the $0 box. _____________________ Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
Princess Ivory SL is my First Life Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 720	10-29-2007 19:41 From: Ann Launay Since my main account is a little older, I get a 400L stipend on it, plus the 300L for the alt...I buy yearly subscriptions, which means the stipends pretty much pay for the memberships. I have 3,072m in land, which should be $25 per month, but with splitting it between the two accounts and donating their tier, it's actually $16 ($8 per). Ok, I'm a math idiot. It makes sense when you explain it as it pertains to your account, but when I try to run my numbers, I cannot come out with any combination of tier splits that make it cheaper to use two premium accounts instead of one. I own 36368 square meters. Working backwards, I need tier worth 33062 square meters, to donate to group with 10% bonus to cover this land I own. (And I have no idea where the 512 fits it. Does it count for extra 10% too, or just straight value?) So, needing approximately 33062 square meters of paid tier, what combination between myself and my husband would result in a cheaper monthly tier when added together? Nothing I try comes up less - it comes up more expensive using two accounts instead of one. But as I said, I am a math idiot. Someone please, set me straight here about what to do! Princess Ivory _____________________ Princess Ivory
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	10-29-2007 20:54 From: Princess Ivory Someone please, set me straight here about what to do! OK, hopefully I did this right...I haven't been sleeping well. lol Current tier/single Premium account: 36,368m=$195/mo (same tier even if 512m bonus is deducted) Less group bonus: 36,368m/1.1=33,062m Less tier-free bonus x2: 33,062m-1024m=32,038 Prospective tier/two Premium accounts: 32,038m=$125/mo Additional annual membership fee: $72/yr Year Premium stipend: 300L52 wk/yr=15,600 L/yr USD conversion: 15,600L/286 L/$=$54.55 Current yearly tier, plus single Premium membership, less stipend: ($19512)+$72-$54.55=$2357.45 Prospective yearly tier, plus two Premium memberships, less stipend: ($125*12)+2($72-54.55)=$1534.90 Total potential savings: $2357.45-1534.9=$822.55 Edit: In this case, it works out more cheaply to have one av pay the entire tier. Splitting it would give you $75 each, which is obviously more. _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Okiphia Rayna DemonEye Benefactor Join date: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,103	10-29-2007 20:58 From: Aki Shichiroji - to get your 'free' 512sqm in tier, you need to purchase land from the mainland. - If you intend to buy 1/8 of a region right out, that's fine... but personally I would start at a low amt and gradually increase as needed. You may find that, given the geographic specifics of the land you purchase, you don't need that much. Wheres my 'free' 512m then? All my land is mainland, but it all counts in my tier
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	10-29-2007 21:06 From: Okiphia Rayna Wheres my 'free' 512m then? All my land is mainland, but it all counts in my tier It's rolled in. I own 3072m, yet each of my accounts is only charged for 1024m, or 2048m total. http://www.secondlife.com/account/landfees.php (Scroll down a bit.) _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Susie Boffin Certified Nutcase Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,151	10-29-2007 21:11 Sucha if you are paying anyone but Linden Labs for your land you are not buying it but merely renting it. _____________________ "If you see a man approaching you with the obvious intent of doing you good, you should run for your life." - Henry David Thoreau
Stephen Zenith Registered User Join date: 15 May 2006 Posts: 1,029	10-30-2007 02:23 From: Raymond Figtree I'm not sure if you have never purchased land. But I had a friend who at one time had the tier at $40 and was billed $40 every month even when he sold his land months earlier because he did not check the $0 box. That's not my experience. The setting on the website only affects the warnings you get about tiering up. I've had my tier on there showing several sims worth, which I didn't actually own in that month. The amount I was charged reflected the amount I'd owned, not what the tier was set to. This was also backed up by something on the website, but of course I can't find it now. _____________________
Sucha Jewell Registered User Join date: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 37	ouch susie 10-30-2007 06:47 is that true? then I am renting it? so everyone who owns land outside mainland is renting it? how do I own land outside mainland from Linden Labs then in order to own? See, I was having this problem.. which is why I went to premium account - I was concerned that if those people who owned it just decided to leave, then what happens? there is nothing that says I am paying them [except of course my paypal account], but it bothers me that it is not from Linden straight. So what do I do to get land that I actually 'own' - [granted of curse that Linden itself might decide to just leave as well!]. Now that I have the premium account, anyone knows of land I can actually 'buy' from Linden? done a search and they are all tiny 16 sq m etc on mainland. Anyone?
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	10-30-2007 06:53 From: Sucha Jewell how do I own land outside mainland from Linden Labs then in order to own? Buy an island. From: someone Now that I have the premium account, anyone knows of land I can actually 'buy' from Linden? done a search and they are all tiny 16 sq m etc on mainland. You don't have to buy from a Linden. Go to Search>Land Sales and use the drop down menu to select 'For Sale - Mainland.' I just looked and there were plenty of plots larger than 16m. _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Sucha Jewell Registered User Join date: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 37	sheeesh!! 10-30-2007 10:23 an island? US$ 1600 ? Holy.... moly... hmmm...
Oryx Tempel Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,663	10-30-2007 10:28 From: Oryx Tempel Sucha, The Mainland is any of the BIG BIG BIG continents on the map. These parcels can be owned directly by you. You pay Linden Lab, and ONLY Linden Lab for tier. You will actually BUY the parcel from another human being. Think of it like buying a RL piece of land; you buy it from Joe Bob, but you pay property taxes on it to the US Gov't. That's what tier is. The "free" 512 tier means you don't have to pay "taxes" on 512 meters of land, no matter how much you own. If you own 1024, you pay for 512 of tier. If you own 1536, you pay for 1024, and so on. If you own 512, you pay nothing. If you own 1024, you pay $5/month. If you own 1025, you pay $8/month. I guess I'm not understanding your confusion, Sucha. You will most probably NEVER buy land directly from LL. You will buy it from Joe Bob avatar. You pay tier to LL. _____________________
Okiphia Rayna DemonEye Benefactor Join date: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,103	10-30-2007 10:32 From: Oryx Tempel I guess I'm not understanding your confusion, Sucha. You will most probably NEVER buy land directly from LL. You will buy it from Joe Bob avatar. You pay tier to LL. only way you buy land from LL that I know of is buying a Sim from them, or through land auctions.
Raymond Figtree Gone, avi, gone Join date: 17 May 2006 Posts: 6,256	10-30-2007 10:34 From: Sucha Jewell is that true? then I am renting it? so everyone who owns land outside mainland is renting it? how do I own land outside mainland from Linden Labs then in order to own? See, I was having this problem.. which is why I went to premium account - I was concerned that if those people who owned it just decided to leave, then what happens? there is nothing that says I am paying them [except of course my paypal account], but it bothers me that it is not from Linden straight. So what do I do to get land that I actually 'own' - [granted of curse that Linden itself might decide to just leave as well!]. Now that I have the premium account, anyone knows of land I can actually 'buy' from Linden? done a search and they are all tiny 16 sq m etc on mainland. Anyone? Go into land sales in search. Sort by For sale Mainland. Set the size you want to search at 512 or more. start searching. Everything you see there is land you are entitled to with your premium account. You will pay another resident for the land, but once it's yours, it's yours and you never have to pay them again, just tier to LL. _____________________ Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	10-30-2007 10:38 From: Sucha Jewell an island? US$ 1600 ? Holy.... moly... hmmm... You said 'land outside mainland'...that would be an island. The options are to buy your own or lease/rent a parcel from someone else. If you do the latter, there's no point in being Premium; it isn't required for island living and your 512m tier-free isn't applicable. Also, you have to be very, very careful who you lease from, as you have no real rights to the land as far as LL knows...it's a contract between Residents and they won't get involved if things go badly. Actually, I don't think you need to be Premium to buy an island either... _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	10-30-2007 10:50 From: Sucha Jewell is that true? then I am renting it? so everyone who owns land outside mainland is renting it? how do I own land outside mainland from Linden Labs then in order to own? This is open to debate. If you buy estate land then the estate owner can in theory reclaim it at the drop of a hat. If you don't keep up your tier payments, then the estate owner almost certainly will reclaim the land. However if you buy estate land from a reputable estate owner, follow the rules, keep up with your tier payments, then you will be fine. The same as if you buy mainland, follow the rules, keep up your tier and membership payments, then you'll be fine. If the estate owner allows you to resell the land then it's pretty much the same principle as mainland, it's just riskier because you need to trust the estate owner to keep paying LL and not run for the hills. From: Sucha Jewell See, I was having this problem.. which is why I went to premium account - I was concerned that if those people who owned it just decided to leave, then what happens? there is nothing that says I am paying them [except of course my paypal account], but it bothers me that it is not from Linden straight. This is true. LL are the most trustworthy landlord here. If LL go bust, so does everyone else. We all have to trust LL. From: Sucha Jewell So what do I do to get land that I actually 'own' - [granted of curse that Linden itself might decide to just leave as well!]. Nothing, it's not currently possible. All you can do is lease land. You don't own it under the current model, be it mainland or estate land, no matter what Philip Rosedale says in television interviews. From: Sucha Jewell Now that I have the premium account, anyone knows of land I can actually 'buy' from Linden? done a search and they are all tiny 16 sq m etc on mainland. Anyone? Just do a filter for mainland only in the land search window. You can enter a land size parcel to try and avoid seeing all the 16M listings.
Sucha Jewell Registered User Join date: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 37	ok I am getting it 10-30-2007 13:22 Ok I think I now hear all this explanation and am getting it. NO confusion any more I believe. My only real issue here was trying to make it a 'reliable' sale. I love where I am and what I have done to the land and just did not want someone to suddenly drop it and my land with it. So now this all makes sense. Thanks a million.

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