How Will Alts Fair in New Ratings World?

Do any of you have ideas or info on how alts will be designated age verified or payment verified for new ratings. I presume we will pay a fee for each alt if we want them to sally out in Zindra or any Mature place. Or do alts get licensed through our mains as payment verified or age proved? Which is correct?
Will it end alts as exploration n' pleasure figures?
(Don't panic - I'm not returning for any length of time or discussions in forum so you don't need to change any of your ignore settings.)

As these forums are in their last days, you might as well come back for old times sake.

As far as the question, LL hasn't, as usual, announced any concrete plans on alts as far as I know. They did mention the possibility of alts working off of a verified main, but nothing further seems to have been said.

There are no alts.

There are simply multiple accounts that happen to be run by the same RL person.

I do have an alt that was linked to my main, and for which I paid a one-time US$9 back in the day when you were meant to do that.
I really doubt that the link in itself would count for anything in terms of access to Adult Only places. She'll get in - if I were to send her - simply because she has PIOF.

Since every account is unique and not tied to any other (unless you signed up before they opened freely to the world), then each and every account would need to have payment info on it and/or go thru the age verification site.

As to those that signed up alts back in the day when they were actually associated with the main, they probably will still need their age verification or payment info to get to the Adult stuff.

Create Master Account Name, Linking to Avatar Names

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-2222

Alts fair rather rubbishly. I find it hard to believe that it's so difficult to verify them as being associated with a main account and would suggest LL's reluctance to do so is more to do with wanting to rid adult content than promote it.

The Linden staff have made statements about *eventually* linking alts to a main account for verification purposes, but as of now, they are treated individually. So if you have alts, and want them verified, you need to do each one.

You can verify them the same way you verified your main account.

Age verification is free, at least for now.

Putting payment information on file is free, but if you use a credit card, you'll probably need to submit a support ticket to have it reflected in world. PIOF using Paypal is reflected in you in world profile immediately.

The only fee would be if you put PIOF and don't want to wait for LL support to fix it. Buy some L$ with it in world and your avatar will be PIU.

I am interested in this. I had thought that alts were officially not allowed, and wondered how two people in SL in the same house fared. I see the flaw in my logic, of course. Glad this question was asked.

When did the policy change from not needing accounts linked?

All the FAQ material and wiki material still seems to imply that you could get all your accounts deleted if they're not connected.

http://secondlife.com/whatis/pricing.php
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/security.asp?questionID=4201

Way back in 2006, LL decided having millions of accounts was more important than knowing who each account belonged to. So they unlinked virtually all requirements for giving real information, stopped checking what information was provided, and stopped making it even possible to pay the old $9.95 USD per additional account fee.

The fee for each account remains on the books solely so they can selectively CHOOSE to enforce it when someone grossly abuses alts. Linden to Abuser: "Oh, you can keep your bot army. But each of those 2,000 accounts will cost you $9.95 USD to keep active, since you never paid any fees for them."

I can't age verify my alts the way I verified my main, they closed that loophole.

I'm not giving them my credit card details again, they have them on two av's which is one more than they should need, there's no need for all this redundant data to be around.

No big deal for me, I can get where I want to be just means some of my alts won't be spending money in certain places.

According to the FAQ, there are no limits to the number of avatars you can have verified, but I can't get it to work for two of my alts, either. How are people getting verified with Elvis's data then?

Edit: Okay, this is just messed up. I put in the information, and it says you're successfully verified, but under that it shows the form, and the verification didn't take on those two alts, but I tried it on a third, and it took. I can see no pattern as to whether it will work or not.

Oh, one other thing, I removed payment information from one avatar to see if it made a difference (it didn't) but that avatar's profile still shows PIOF. I'll see how long that lasts.

I had an incident happen where I used paypal for main and an alt I created about a year ago, I then for some reason or another had to change my main to CC and after a month wanted to use my paypal again. (I was duh on the payapl secondary payment - forgot ) needless to say tarina can not longer use that paypal account and the alt died some time ago.......


I dont know if it means anything...

Myself and my wife have 2 main accounts both PIU and 8 alts between us and 7 alts were age verified via Aristotle and one had PIOF all done on the same day as well.

Thank you Brenda - a lovely thing to say. If I think of something to ask, I may. But, I suspect Forums will last longer than anticipated. Ciao.

Was told each avatar name is considered separate and as such must also register and/or verify separately. source: Blue Linden, office hour meeting.

That explains a bit. Like why I've been unable to -find- the darned link to create a second account...

When I made this account in 2006, I had to go through hoops to agree to not have a second one. The name 'arcady' was not the one I wanted, but one I picked at random - so it took me till 2009 to, in part, decide I could stand to live with it and just get on with enjoying SL... (one of a couple reasons I left)

But on coming back, I still saw the note on 9.95, but no info on making a second account... so I just revived the old account.

Which FAQ? Last I checked they still had that 5 account per household limit.

The Age Verification FAQ.





I kinda doubt the 5 accounts per household limit has been enforced in a very long time.

That contradicts the Alt FAQ and this recent Blog Answers post: https://blogs.secondlife.com/message/2168#

It was being enforced in the software as recently as last year: registering a sixth account on the same email address or adding a sixth account to the same payment info was not permitted.

It's still being stated as current on the alt FAQ and on the Answers page listed above.

The five alts issue is enforced, there are ways around it but if you use the same details such as name, address and email then you'll have a problem getting a sixth.

I recently raised a support ticket as I couldn't remember the name of my fifth, LL were able to tell me the name and inform me that at time of registration there had been an error with the system so it never worked.

As they can find this information I find it hard to fathom why they can't verify all my alts.

Contradictory information from Linden Lab?!? No way!

So there's a theoretical limit to the number of avatars you're permitted to have, but you can have as many accounts age verified as you can get the system to work with. So far for me that's been three.

Lexie is dead wrong about "You can create up to five accounts per household.". They absolutely ARE NOT enforcing that one, in any way, shape or form.

What they ARE doing is still enforcing a limit on the number of accounts that can use a single payment method. You can put 5 on any one credit card. But they will happily let you regiester 5 more on another card, or an infinite number of alts that have no payment info at all.

Well, I guess you can interpret things that way... but...

...or email address. And when you try and register account #6 with the same email address the error message is that you have exceeded the number of accounts per household.

I REALLY don't like this kind of "don't ask, don't tell" enforcement, and think they need to take the 5 account limit out of the FAQ and software completely, ASAP.