Will child-av content be allowed on Mature sums?

Just wondering about the other side of the new AV system.

If PG is going to now be super-G, does this mean that child avs will effectively have to be permitted in Mature sims? (I know they aren't technically forbidden now but ti's generally just a good guideline to go by at the moment.)

There is nothing in the current rules OR the proposed changes that prohibits a child avatar from being in a sim at ANY rating level. Thay can't participate in SEX itself, and they shouldn't be in immediate proximity of sex beds or other sexual paraphenalia. But they could walk down the street of downtown Ursula city, as long as they behave themselves and don't try to enter the brothels and adult businesses.

There is no reason, for that matter, under the proposed rules, that a family could not set up a residential area in an adult flagged sims, and establish a "kid safe zone" on their parcel, where their kid avatars are assuredly LESS likely to be exposed to random griefers and idiots who would try to have sex with a child avatar.

Little Immy OWNS (Mature) land, thankyouverymuch. (^_^)y

This rating system is going to destroy my business.

I sell "Adult" items. Well, I didn't when this whole thing started, but now that generic search terms like "Fetish" and "Vagina" are being locked to Adult-Only, it's going to make it Exceedingly difficult to remain in business without relocating to Adult Rated land.

At the same time, of course, I sell some items that are REALLY POPULAR(tm) among child avatars. (the Gameboy Typing Override being one).


http://tr.im/slx990043

...I also sell (non-sexual) furniture, hair, robot avatars, and more.

There's a growing group of (i beleive) shortsighted residents, who think it's an awesome idea to ban search access to PG content, for those searching for Adult content. Making it impossible to just "turn off safe search". They want it set to "only search for adult content" and "only search for pg content" with no mixing of results.

Meaning, unless some child avatar turns on "Adult Search: Gameboy" they're NEVER going to find me. And who is going to ever think to search for a gameboy in an adult search? Or victorian furniture. Or a burger-giving bbq, or a porta-potty, or Remote-Control Toys?

The only solution I can come up with, is to (sigh) split my store in half. And then the question comes, will the PG content do enough business on it's own to justify it's own store? It hasn't in the past.

MY tier goes up, MY sales go down.. who thought we needed this again?

Seems that you found out what LL secret plan was. To have everyone, or at least alot of users get two parcels and claim higher land sells, even though they are just old users. In one step they have almost double their land sells without getting new users.

Correct. This is one of the things I've asked about over time. Child avatar can be in any level sim. Proximity rules still apply, however.

Outside private residences, Mature and PG will be the same thing. Why not?

Oh..... Accusations... Wide spread panic... Rumors... Mob mentality... He said/she said... Chicken little... Sky falling...

You know...

The usual. (^_^)y

To be fair, whilst I don't see the point of the idea of turning off PG search, this is pretty much the reverse of the LL plan.

LL's plan is to say that if you have a vagina for sale in your store, that keyword alone will mean your parcel will be flagged by search as adult and only those with adult search on will find your store for PG or adult items. They're actually going further and suggesting that you should really be on adult land for selling items such as that and again, if you're on adult land only those who have adult content search ticked will find your store, even for the PG items and even if you parcel it up into two parcels on that adult land and have one parcel of completely PG items.

I'm still trying to grasp what the point of mature search will be in the brave new world.

I have mature land on the main land and if any child looking av comes there they will be banned no questions asked

Just please please do not use height as the primary factor in deciding if they deserve the Heel to the Head.

Which is your right on your land.

We have a section of our mature land set up mostly to amuse children avs. All though all types of avs wanting wholesome family type fun are welcome to stop in there. Just because land is in a mature region does not neccisarily mean mature activities happen there.

I go by several things height, appearance , dress, actions. Groups and pics are also a good clue which is why i feel its wrong that groups can be hidden. In an area i hose i have sprung a few into age play via their groups and their av looked young but the person claimed she was tiny in RL and not yet developed. The groups did not seem to pay out n her comments as opposed to her interests

That is your choice, as a landowner. If you want to ban anyone with less than three tails and who lacks fur, you can do that too. You'd be pretty stupid to do so, but you could. It's your land. You can ban everyone but yourself and your alts, if that floats your boat.

But unless your land is a wall-to-wall orgy pit, you have no basis under the TOS or Community Standards to require a child avatar to avoid your land. You have only your preference, as a landowner, not to see child-like avatars anywhere on your parcel.

I'd be halfway tempted to spend some of my spare time in my child avatar, riding my bycycle down the streets and roads of Ursula. And when anyone complains, morph into a 700 year old red dragon, breathe fire in their general direction, and ask "What was your problem, again? Foolish mortal. Can't tell a simple illusion from fact.".

I could not tell from your profile what your land was, but I could also surmise that its unlikely to be anythign I'd want anyway.

As an aside, though. I feel like people are gonna start scapegoating kid avvies any moment now. Really, the Ursula stuff is so not about kid avvies.



I own three plots of land. All three are mature parcels. Nothing mature happens on 'em, but I'm good with it as it is.

We run a school from our home teaching D/s not BDSM and emoting and i can see from your profile it would be of no interest to you

What exactly do you mean by sprung a few into age play? Do you mean you tempt them into age play just so you can gotcha and catch them? I personally find that kind of actions very distasteful. I am also sure many of the very puritanical I hate children avatars because they might be sexual people are they ones who are afraid they will find a child sexual inticing. I am very suspect of those that have too much interest in what the "children" are doing.

I choose to assume they are innocent unless they prove themselves quilty. I would never go search it out or try to trap people. Maybe I am just one of those naive people who believes that others will live up to what you expect of them.

Will child-av content be allowed on Mature sims? Yes.

Why? In the past and present child-av content has been allowed.

What about in the future? There will be even less problems as all the overtly sexual parcels will be moved to the adult continent.

no sorry bad typing i do not set ppl up where i host is a BDSM dungeon so why would a child be there? First off child AVS are not allowed in the area rules of the owner. Their chat which could be heard from where i was standing and often stand could be heard. Her calling the person daddy and him offering her candy if well you get the pic. I had nothing to do with them being there i arrived after they got there so i did not see what she looked liked till i heard the chat. As my duty as the hostess I had to check on who was there and since she was a kid i IMed her and asked her to change she went on how she was in her 20s. I asked her again and told them that age play was against not only sim rules ( clearly displayed to all ) but SL also.
As for your comment about finding "children sexual enticing" you can think with you like but from my view the places i go to IE the area i host which is ADULT , my home which we run a school and a club none of which are suitable for children in RL so no need for child AVs to be in them.

Thank you very much for clarifying things for me. I really do appreciate it. I had not seen what kind of area you have before I wrote that. I can definately understand your concerns.

Your welcome
The owner has strict rules and its a fun place most just hang out in the lobby and chat but if i see someone doing the wrong thing they are soon removed

Yes, I would imagine no child avatar would knowingly want to be in or near your school.

Though how you intend to continue operating or advertising your school on Mature land, once the Adult Content policy changes go in, is beyond me. The 'protection' of it being something done in your home will be null and void as soon as you make it an advertized or publicly accessible venue. By definition, if it is a school, it is a "Public venue", and you can't use terms like BDSM, D/s, Dominatrix, Submissive, or just about any other accurate keywords to describe your parcel or advertize your school. If I was running any sort of publicly accessible D/s school, I'd be expecting a forced move to Ursula, or having to change the rating of the Private Island sim I was in to Adult.

No kidding. I have been harassed many times because I run a business on a mature sim that was my SL family sim. People come barging in accusing me of doing bad things and telling me i'm not allowed on mature sims lol. Some people think they know it all!

You are correct but as we do not advertise it is by word of mouth. If you come to the house you will see just that a house like most in SL thought we do have 2 statues BDSM style but mild. There are no bondage toys out , as i said we are D/s not BDSM. I have spoken to the Lindens about this and they said it would be fine

I may be wrong here, but it seems pretty much anyone from any area of life in SL is concerned about their looming loss of rights with the latest LL changes. This is, in my eyes, a realistic and justified fear for everyone.

I am deeply opposed to real life kids being encouraged into SL, mainly because they are actual children and SL is adult in general.

Child avis are different, they are adults and it is an adult concept. So I do think they deserve/need the same rights as non sexual adults.

That said, I also think adults deserve to be able to say no to child avis with out any duress, they to have their range of valid reasons.

I think an mature/adult rated PG zone or something akin to that is important. Right now that is not here and useless in the immediate term, but it might be worth pushing for.