For example: If I scan someone who has the Omicron, I want the results of the scan to say so.
I asked around in-world but no luck so now I take it to here.
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Shayna Korobase
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02-24-2008 15:31
I have a question: I want to know if a scanner exists that scans a person and tells you exactly what HUDS, attachments or scripts they may be using.
For example: If I scan someone who has the Omicron, I want the results of the scan to say so. I asked around in-world but no luck so now I take it to here. Thanks ![]() |
Annabelle Babii
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02-24-2008 15:38
Mystitool has a "scan for active scripts" feature, but I believe it only works for objects, not avatars. I don't think there's a way to scan avatars for HUD attachments.
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EliteData Maximus
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02-24-2008 16:14
you can see objects attached to an avatar, but not on the HUD, by using beacons and transparent.
you cant identify the attached objects on the avatar this way either, only see whats attached. _____________________
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Shayna Korobase
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02-25-2008 05:09
Is it possible to write such a script? Maybe this is the next BIG SELLER for a good scriptor
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Broccoli Curry
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02-25-2008 05:15
Apart from an infringement of other's privacy (ie if they choose not to make something visible, you have no right to know what it is), what possible use could this have?
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Winter Ventura
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02-25-2008 05:37
LSL provides no tools for this, so no, it can't be done.
using an LSL script, you can detect IF an avatar is wearing any attachments. But you can not determine WHAT is attached, HPOW MANY attachments they're wearing, or WHERE it is attached. Put simply, you can't tell if they're wearing a MystiTool, an Animation Override, or a Galactic Death ray... because if they're wearing "prim shoes" or "prim hair" or a "Flexi Skirt" then they're wearing at least one attachment. THOUGH, if you know specifically HOW a CERTAIN scripted attachment works (if you wrote the HUD for example) you can make the HUD say something periodically, and make your sensing device "call out" and say "hey is joe wearing my hud?" and the hud can answer back "yes" _____________________
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02-25-2008 07:22
LSL provides no tools for this, so no, it can't be done. using an LSL script, you can detect IF an avatar is wearing any attachments. But you can not determine WHAT is attached, HPOW MANY attachments they're wearing, or WHERE it is attached. Put simply, you can't tell if they're wearing a MystiTool, an Animation Override, or a Galactic Death ray... because if they're wearing "prim shoes" or "prim hair" or a "Flexi Skirt" then they're wearing at least one attachment. THOUGH, if you know specifically HOW a CERTAIN scripted attachment works (if you wrote the HUD for example) you can make the HUD say something periodically, and make your sensing device "call out" and say "hey is joe wearing my hud?" and the hud can answer back "yes" Not completely true. You cannot tell using LSL, that is true, but by right-clicking an avatar's attachments, and going to Inspect on the Pie Menu, you can get the name of the Creator of the attachment. This can certainly give a strong clue as to which attachment is being worn. It is also possible, using LSL, to listen to the channels that attachments use, so, for example, if you know what channels a particular creator uses for his products you could use a channel scanner to listen to those channels to see if someone is using that product. Rock |
Winter Ventura
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02-25-2008 07:27
but person A, can not right click, or see person B's hud attachments.. much less click on them.
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3Ring Binder
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02-25-2008 07:28
not to be curt, but how is it your business what HUDS i am wearing?
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02-25-2008 07:58
3ring,
It's a common security concern. Also something that would be very useful for RP or combat sims. |
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02-25-2008 08:28
It's a common security concern. Also something that would be very useful for RP or combat sims. Explain? I don't share your concerns, so clearly I'm not understanding why it's important. _____________________
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02-25-2008 09:13
This information isn't as useful as you might hope. You can already use llGetAgentInfo to see if scripted attachments exist, every other detail can be spoofed. A weapon script can work just as well if it is put into prim hair or a renamed HUD, and script names are easily changed.
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02-25-2008 09:18
Explain? I don't share your concerns, so clearly I'm not understanding why it's important. I can give you one example of how I'd personally use it if this functionality were available.... At the Shelter, weapons are prohibited. The majority of our visitors are new residents, and often times this rule is violated with purely innocent intentions. Instead of creating drama when someone walks around with a gun attached.... it'd be sweet if we could automatically detect gun attachments, and automatically send them a friendly reminder of the house rules, and how to detach it. not to be curt, but how is it your business what HUDS i am wearing? Its no-one's buisness as you're roaming the grid. However, Linden does give landowners a decent amount of control over what kinds of things can be done in their parcel/sim. I'd say that a function like this would need to be restricted to objects owned by the landowner only. There's not even a JIRA request for it though, so at this point we're just talking hypotheticals. _____________________
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Shayna Korobase
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02-25-2008 13:12
not to be curt, but how is it your business what HUDS i am wearing? We run a sim that involves weapons use. Specifically flying crafts. Some poeple are suspected to be using cheats and we'de like a way to sniff them out and ask them to stop or ban them. So..... being as WE run the sim WE have the right to check into possible cheaters on OUR sim. BUT... we dont want to be paranoid and just ban someone because they are skilled. understand? |
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02-25-2008 14:27
if you are talking about cheats, then you should be very specific about the HUD you are seeking, not just any hud that any ol avatar might be wearing. in that circumstance, you would only be trying to find that one hud, and all others would be invisible to your search.
not likely, so i still have to stick with my original NO reply... which was offered in the form of a question, i realize. _____________________
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02-26-2008 04:47
if you are talking about cheats, then you should be very specific about the HUD you are seeking, not just any hud that any ol avatar might be wearing. in that circumstance, you would only be trying to find that one hud, and all others would be invisible to your search. not likely, so i still have to stick with my original NO reply... which was offered in the form of a question, i realize. With all of the possible cheats out there how is this possible? That is why I asked if there was/is a way to find out what someone is using by using a scanner. Clearly it A) doesn't exist or B) know one here knows it exists. What confuses me is why poeple get so defensive when a question like this is asked. My guess... they are cheaters who don't want to get caught. Thank you. |
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02-26-2008 05:02
What confuses me is why poeple get so defensive when a question like this is asked. My guess... they are cheaters who don't want to get caught. Although I'm not likely to be in your "target group" as what you are running doesn't interest me in the slightest, I am not "cheating" in any way but I don't want random strangers having details about me that a) I have not given them, and b) they have no business knowing. _____________________
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Shayna Korobase
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02-26-2008 05:39
Although I'm not likely to be in your "target group" as what you are running doesn't interest me in the slightest, I am not "cheating" in any way but I don't want random strangers having details about me that a) I have not given them, and b) they have no business knowing. Why is it a problem if poeple know what HUD's you're using? We're not asking for account info so we can hack you and steel your lindens....LMAO Not trying to turn this into a flame war. I just find it interesting how mad people get on this topic. |
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02-26-2008 07:21
Why is it a problem if poeple know what HUD's you're using? becuase it's just simply none of your goddam business. we're not the ones with an agenda here. _____________________
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02-26-2008 07:30
I just find it interesting how mad people get on this topic. We have a right to a certain amount of privacy. You don't have a right to any information over and above that which we put on our profiles, and tell you ourselves. Knowing how well the PATRIOT act has gone down in the US - you don't see parallels in potential infringments? Whilst it may be true that the innocent have nothing to hide, surveillance can go too far. Since you clearly don't worry about privacy, please post your full name, home address, telephone number, social security number, SL account password, bank details and passport number here - because obviously you can trust us not to do anything untoward with that information, right? What do you mean, "no"??? _____________________
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Shayna Korobase
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02-26-2008 08:30
We have a right to a certain amount of privacy. You don't have a right to any information over and above that which we put on our profiles, and tell you ourselves. Knowing how well the PATRIOT act has gone down in the US - you don't see parallels in potential infringments? Whilst it may be true that the innocent have nothing to hide, surveillance can go too far. Since you clearly don't worry about privacy, please post your full name, home address, telephone number, social security number, SL account password, bank details and passport number here - because obviously you can trust us not to do anything untoward with that information, right? What do you mean, "no"??? You have completely missed the point and are taking it WAY too far and out of context. Wanting to know what HUDS someone is using is FAR FAR different then getting their RL private information. Anyway..... you stated your case and I'm not going to argue any longer with you about it. |
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02-26-2008 14:45
You have completely missed the point and are taking it WAY too far and out of context. Wanting to know what HUDS someone is using is FAR FAR different then getting their RL private information. Anyway..... you stated your case and I'm not going to argue any longer with you about it. it's still none of your business, no matter which way you spin it. _____________________
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02-26-2008 14:54
Anyway..... you stated your case and I'm not going to argue any longer with you about it. You don't seem to have convinced anyone else here yet either, to be honest... Ever thought that there might be a reason that an LSL function to scan attachments doesn't exist? _____________________
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02-26-2008 14:58
it's still none of your business, no matter which way you spin it. Technically, on her sim, she can choose to make it her business. What I would really like is a way to tell how many scripts an avatar is running in their attachments. I've seen times on my sim where a small handful of avatars were adding over 1000 scripts to the sim's total. It would be great to be able to find out who was responsible for the added lag. Most people don't realize that some of their attachments can have hundreds of scripts running, and that each adds to the lag they are complaining about. _____________________
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02-26-2008 16:12
Technically, on her sim, she can choose to make it her business. no. it won't only be on her sim. everyone will have it, and it will be gridwide. it's no one's business no matter which way you rewrite it. _____________________
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